Posted on 10/25/2023 7:45:49 AM PDT by DallasBiff
Let’s put it this way: every time someone dies, a death certificate is issued. That death certificate is kept by the state in which the death occurred. By federal law, every death that occurs is reportable to the CDC.
There is no insurance company in the country that has a database of death data that contains information that the government does not have. Each company only collects information about the people they have insured, which is a small subset of the entire US population.
Of course insurance companies have seen a spike in deaths. So has the CDC. This is because we are in a pandemic that has killed 1,180,183 in the US so far. And even more people have died of heart disease, kidney disease, etc., because medical resources have been directed towards care of Covid patients.
I have posted links to mortality data in other posts (https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4192212/posts?page=17#17). You are free to look at them and study the data for yourself. I’ll bet that you’ll be hard-pressed to find any vaccine-caused deaths.
What? You weren't impressed with how intelligent, how urbane, how cultured he is. He wanted us to know, so he shared some of his reading:
"Over the weekend, as I pondered a volume of forgotten lore — it was Emily Wilson's gripping translation of Homer's "Odyssey," actually —"
IBDDD?
:-)
Dont believe your lying eyes ears and mind:-)
>>However, the scientists who work in government agencies are not politicians.
Really? Are you serious?
Wow.
Eisenhower warned us of big science in bed with big government in his farewell speech. It’s the passage right after he warned of the military-industrial complex. You should go read it, everyone should.
If you haven’t figured out that government “science” is intensely political after watching climate change BS for the last 30 years, and Covid BS for the last three, well, I just don’t know what to say. But it wouldn’t be good.
One of the big lessons of Covid is that Big Pharma has effected regulatory capture on all the big government public health organs. They also control media (look at their ad spend) and many politicians.
I have already posted many links to medical/scientific publications. These publications are about as close to the original laboratory and clinical research studies as one can get without being personally involved in the research.
My question for you is, why do you distrust what real scientists say, but you are so ready to believe the creative misinterpretations of science produced by non-scientist antivaxxers?
Previous posts containing links to the real science:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4192119/posts?page=19#19
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4191958/posts?page=50#50
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4191958/posts?page=17#17
Your post is far better than the article. I’ll provide an off-the-cuff response. I apologize in advance for not providing a better response.
I once read that the greatest medical advance ever was the move to closed (not open) sewers. That change reduced deaths more than anything else. I can’t really evaluate the claim, but I think it has at least some merit. Those who work to manage and construct sewer and water purification systems may be among the least appreciated among us.
As for true vaccines (I’m excluding mRNA shots), I don’t know. What you say could well be true. There are many things going on the world and proper attribution may not happen. I’ve bookmarked the books you mentioned and will not commit beyond that at this time.
Our government/medical complex has lost a lot of credibility and with me. I did not take the “safe and effective covid vaccine.” The polio vaccine is, by my recollection, good for life. The Tetanus vaccine is good for ten years, everything else is (was) in-between.
Clearly, the covid vaccine is not effective. Nor is it a vaccine, as it has always been understood in the past. Safe? Hotly debated. I’ll go along with the argument that it was prudent for the old and unhealthy and very foolish for the young and healthy. Was it even covid? Or was it the Wuhan virus?
In short, it seems that every word of “Covid-19 vaccine is safe and effective” is false. For someone as knowledgeable as Dr. Fauci, every word was a lie.
President Biden fired people like me. Not me personally as I was already retired. He said he (the nation) was losing patience with people like me. I often had to wear a mask that was known to be ineffectual, possibly unhealthy, and certainly uncomfortable to me. Many have suffered and even died due to our autocratic, socialized medical system. It should be an affront to all of us.
While I’m not an anti-vaxer yet, I firmly believe that Americans are not free when it comes to medicines and medical care.
Those who criticize the covid vaccine are not anti-science, since science allows for free and open discussion and is open to critical analysis and peer review
which is still being currently ignored by the advocates of the covid vaccine.
True Science allows for disagreement and is open to change, disagreement and is constantly evolving as more date comes under review.
This process is not true as evidenced by this article.
Virus characteristically become less virulent as they morph and age with subsequent variants,
since they don't want to kill off the 'host' and bring about their own extinction.
Now if we could only contain the media hype about the latest variants, we might have better understanding about this "gain-of-function" disease.
The NIH/FDA/CDC cabal are no longer believable nor trustworthy, and have been shown to be part of the Big Pharma consortium.
They have sold us "snake oil" to fill the coffers of Big Pharma through the "Gain-of-function" research, which they said would protect us from deadly diseases,
and instead, they have helped to produce the vary "novel" diseases that they said they would protect us from contracting.
Even recently, the Wuhan Institute of Virology has found another eight (8) new Novel diseases - which will probably result in the development of another eight (8) new vaccines.
Of course I am serious.
People get a master’s or a PhD in a STEM field and take that education to organizations that employs technicians and scientists. In other words, we all have similar educational backgrounds.
When a person goes to get hired at an organization, they submit a resume or CV outlining their experience, education, and qualifications for the position they are interested in. This is the same regardless of whether the position is at a university, a government research lab, a hospital, a biotech company, etc.
What you will not see when applying for a government job is any kind of inquiry into your political beliefs or how you vote. This is illegal. I suppose you have never heard of the Hatch act, which prohibits federal employees from engaging in political activities, especially in relation to their jobs.
https://www.doi.gov/ethics/political-activity
https://osc.gov/Documents/Outreach%20and%20Training/Handouts/A%20Guide%20to%20the%20Hatch%20Act%20for%20Federal%20Employees.pdf
What this all means is that both Republicans and Democrats (as well as fringe party members) work in government. And why wouldn’t they? Pay and benefits are very good!
Feel free to browse around the https://www.usajobs.gov/ website. You can see for yourself that it is apolitical and that hiring is based on qualifications.
Exactly. This whole thing is such a racket.
And it appears there’s a handful of FReepers in on the take.
If I have time, I’ll find the two articles on FR featuring information from insurance companies and there are two from mortuaries (business was flat in 2020 and great starting 2021)
MSU Professor Mark Skidmore was exonerated by MSU; his landmark paper showing over 250,000 killed by the COVID vaccine is now back in the peer-reviewed literature
substack.com ^ | Oct 21, 2023 | Steve Kirsch
Dugway, is that you?
The Scamdemic hasn't killed 1.2M in the U.S.
Somehow, according to the CDC, the flu disappeared for two years due to the miracle of ScienceTM. This is the same CDC that lied about funding the banned gain-of-function Wuhan bio-weapon, changed their definition of a vaccine to allow for an illegal Emergency Use Authorization of an RNA experiment, and lied about the effectiveness of their Jim Jones Jab.
They were so blatant in their lies that even deaths from motorcycle crashes were cited as COVID-1984 deaths.
The increased in deaths isn't due to medical resources directed towards care of COVID-1984 patients. It's due to Pfizercarditis and other health complications from the taking the shot. Insurance companies are well aware that the increase in deaths follows the shots, not the coronavirus spreading in 2019.
https://davidicke.com/2023/10/23/new-zealand-is-a-crime-scene-in-one-clinic-in-one-day-30-people-were-covid-injected-and-all-30-have-died/
He’s a leftist sock-puppet who thinks that just because he used to write about things like finance or business and economic issues can just slip right in and write meaningfully on complex medical issues like the CovidScam Vaxxine.
IMO, the crux of this whole scam is that it DOES NOT significantly protect the people immunized, nor have lasting protection. Further, enough data has been gleaned (unwillingly from government, pharma, the government-captured medical establishment and VAXXERS) to show that it (the vaxx or its derivatives) actually harms far more people than any other true vaccine that would go through a legitimate FDA approval process should.
https://biographyscoop.com/michael-hiltzik/
Agreed ! It is a national "Bait and Switch" pogram.
They NIH/FDA/CDC helped to create the disease through funding 'gain of function' research.
Then they "Bait and Switch" with an untested, nationally mandated vaxxine, which includes the Simian Virus40 (SV40), a known virus known to create cancer.
Next Pharma with produce additional chemotherapy cancer medications to control (not to cure) cancer treatments,
the price of which will be paid through the Federal government as national pandemic expenses, per usual.
Meanwhile the NIH/FDA/CDC incraese their power and their budgets which will increase exponentially, as also does the government cost paid to Pharma
The disease, the vaxxine and its contaminants begin a never ending cycle of additional sales revenue for Pharma.
By: Michael Hiltzik (business columnist at the LA Times)
My rating? Absolute Zero Credibility
You beat me to it. I did not post a photo, but his bio and the url of his link.
LA TIMES is total Garbage and this article has Zero Credibility.
The nature of bureaucracies is that people are expected “to get with the program.” If one is lucky, the “program” is to tell the truth, work an honest day, and serve the American people. It doesn’t always work like that.
The need to get with the program is often greater as one ascends the organizational ladder. Whistleblowers are not welcomed. The press treats whistleblowers differently depending on whether they help or hurt the Democrats and their causes. If you are a whistleblower to the detriment of Republicans, the press is on your side. If you leak to the detriment of Democrats, the press will demand your prosecution, as they commence your persecution.
As I remember it, there was a spirited, then private, discussions between Fauci, eco-health alliance, Wuhan scientists and other interested parties. What was the source of the virus? It was soon decided that it was in everyone’s (Fauci, eco-health, Wuhan scientists, etc.) best interest that the virus have a natural origin. Anyone who said anything else was to be labeled a conspiracy theorist, for starters. With rare exception, it seems like everyone (to include the press) “got with the program.”
That is one example. There are so many more.
About 75% of the US population are covid anti-vaxxers now. Only 25% of the population took the bivalent vaccine last year with seniors accounting for a fair amount of the jabs. This years version isn’t expected to do any better. 47% of the population took the flu shot for the 22-23 flu season. So almost half of the people that took the flu shot declined the bivalent covid shot.
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