Posted on 10/24/2023 8:55:06 AM PDT by george76
If she had just said she was using a joke sarcastic method to jokingly make the point she apparently believes, that because the “anti-vax” people got involved in this and made a campaign out of it which inflated the statistics, I would have disagreed (especially since the adverse events with this injection are underreported, in my opinion) but she doubled down.
Which means she is speaking ideologically, not scientifically.
Probably believes all the peer reviewed literature she sees out there, too. Anyone who knows anything about sciences as they operate today knows peer review is a joke.
So why have it then? And then why not look at it as the CDC head Rachel Walensky was asked to via revealed memos but never did?
If, for example, someone dies from stage IV lung cancer three weeks after vaccination, that is a reportable event. However, their death was not caused by any vaccine.
So, how do you know this? Is it possible people with Stage IV lung cancer can survive? I know it is not very possible by it does happen. Why would you just make a pronouncement if there is no investigation?
Adverse events following vaccination are caused by your immune system, not the vaccine.
So, its my fault then if I have a reaction?
This is a very flippant response to the millions of people that have been killed or maimed from numerous vaccines since their development over the years.
A vaccine does not cause physical damage (except for the tiny poke where the needle was inserted).
So what happened with the people that died from the Swine Flu and early Polio vaccines?
The Swine Flu vaxx was pulled in ‘77 after causing fewer than three dozen deaths and around 500 reported injuries.
Those aren’t my stats, BTW, they’re the CDC’s.
Why is human life worth so much less now?
Well duh I’m not a scientist and never pretended to be one. Anything I post here are concerns expressed by respected scientists that I’m bringing attention to for those interested. I never claimed the sv49 virus itself was in the vaxx it’s an sv40 promoter sequence as you’ve said. It can be considered possibly oncogenic because it assists any mRNA or DNA present in the vaxx to pass through cellular membranes more easily including the nucleus where it could potentially wreak havoc.
“Professional antivaxxers, on the other hand, usually do not provide references”
Seeing as to how Pfizer hid from regulators the fact that that sv40 promotor sequence was in the vaxx there won’t be any mention of it in the Pfizer documents for me to reference.
“Oh, BTW, you only posted one link and that went to an antivax fearmongering blog.”
Arkmedic is a PhD/MD who seems very well respected among other dissident scientists who often cite his blog because he does a good job explaining things to non scientists like myself. To dismiss his substack as an “antivax fearmongering blog” is rather ridiculous and shows your bias. You disagree with these dissident scientists apparently which is fine. You can make your case and they will make theirs and people can decide who they want to believe.
Don’t bother. She is an ideologue jackass of the worst kind, the condescending type. You are wasting your typing communicating with this harpy.
She stated that she fed them data. Must have been data for all those safety studies.
But hey. She “knows math”, and that tells her only two people were adversely affected.
300,000 doses of flu vaccine Preflucel withdrawn in alert over side-effects
No reported deaths, but the adverse reactions were enough to get it pulled.
Those were the days...
Well, the govt just admitted that (jabbed) lives are worth $4,400.
Unreal.
Where do these hundreds of thousands go to get their health/loved ones lives back?
The govt plants/FR $$s have probably made a LOT more, $hilling these horrid $hots, than these myocarditis victims will (ever) be paid.
The reportable period for deaths following vaccination is five or six weeks. So, as I said, if someone with stage IV lung cancer dies within that time period, any researcher is going to look at the cause of death and conclude that the vaccine was not involved. The stage IV lung cancer was just an example; the principle remains the same whether they die of COPD, congestive heart failure, a bee sting, or something else. There is always a chance of dying, thus, a certain number of people will always die within a few weeks of receiving a vaccine. The data actually shows that the chance of dying decreases after receiving a vaccine. Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination. This is because unvaccinated people are more likely to die of Covid, and other causes of death are unaffected.
As for your use of the word "fault" in regards to your immune system function, I do not know how fault can be assumed. Your immune system does what it is supposed to do without any conscious effort on your part. If you have a vaccine reaction, it is completely due to the natural function of your immune system. This is a very important concept that antivax professionals DO NOT want people to understand. Let me repeat: Your immune system causes vaccine reactions. You will have those reactions and more if you catch a communicable disease. Your immune system causes many of the symptoms that you experience during infection. But during infection, you also have elevated inflammatory responses and tissue damage resulting from inflammation and the virus killing your cells.
I will not comment on Rachel Walensky. Do not assume that a scientist such as myself is completely aware of every piece of antivax rhetoric that spreads around social media. I am aware, however, that various professional antivaxxers use the FOIA system to try to create narratives of government cover-up. Enough said on that.
” She is an ideologue jackass of the worst kind, the condescending type.”
She does have a bit of an attitude lol. I’d like her to list any conflicts of interest that may color what she posts. Judging from the work she says she’s involved with I can almost guarantee that big pharma is sponsoring her research.
I am not against vaccinations, so if someone like her tries to shoe-horn me in there (notice the use of “anti-vaxx” rhetoric in her post while she complains about others using rhetoric against vaccinations) it pisses me off.
I an in no way anti-vaccination. I am anti-THIS “vaccination”.
Plus, there has been a huge number of people who made a great deal of money off this (as you reference) which soils this even further.
And I am 10,000 times MORE opposed to it since being FORCED to get it to keep my job.
No on all counts.
I would agree with that assessment.
I an in no way anti-vaccination. I am anti-THIS “vaccination”.
Amen.
And, they (the $$s) know this...they’ve been told this, REPEATEDLY, by many, here.
Doesn’t fit their pu$h narrative, though, on these $hots.
A DNA virus (like the measles virus, herpes viruses, or papillomaviruses) can insert its DNA into the human genome. An RNA retrovirus has an enzyme that can make DNA using the RNA as a template and other enzymes to integrate that viral DNA into the genome. Depending on where it lands, the inserted DNA can disrupt genes involved in cell cycle control, which can lead to cancer. Some viruses contain oncogenes which mimic human genes and disrupt their functions, which can also lead to cancer.
A plasmid has none of these properties. These plasmids only function in bacteria and, even in bacteria, do not integrate into the genome.
Should I mention that bacteria that live in your body also have plasmids? Or that literally everything you eat is full of DNA and RNA? How is it, then, that your genome is not full of cow and fish and pea and mushroom (etc.) DNA?
Pfizer did not hide anything from regulators. The SV40 promoter element is, in fact, a common feature of plasmids. If you are a researcher, you can buy plasmids containing the SV40 promoter and insert whatever gene you want into the plasmid. How is it that regulators would be unaware of a common plasmid element? Oh, they wouldn't be unaware of it. They also wouldn't be concerned since they understand the difference between a promoter and an oncogene.
Oh, here is a link to a list of some plasmids in current use: TA and GC Cloning Vectors. Many of those plasmids contain SV40 promoters. There are many other plasmids in use, as well, many of which contain SV40 promoters.
“Are you sure that those antivax “concerns” are expressed by real scientists?”
Are you serious? Robert Malone and Luc Montagnier won Nobel Prizes for their work in virology. The rest of the dissident scientists all have either an MD or PhD and respected careers if not in virology or immunology. Kevin McKernan headed the human genome project at MIT. I notice you didn’t list any conflicts of interest you might have so I will assume your personal research is funded all or in part by big pharma so you are obviously biased.
Not sure why you’re babbling on about plasmids since many of the plasmids left in the vaxx are no longer intact. Pfizer & Moderna used enzymes in an unsuccessful attempt to remove them so most are fragments. The smaller fragments make it easier for them to invade the nucleus especially with the various promoters present. Having any of these materials getting into the nucleus including the spike protein itself raises major concerns among all these dissident scientists.
LOLOL!!!!
I’ve never worked for “Big Pharma.”
But, on a serious note, it does not really matter which sector of the scientific profession I have worked in. Because whether I would say biotech, university, government, a dedicated research institute, or “big pharma”, according to antivax conspiracy rhetoric, I have a conflict of interest.
The whole purpose of antivax use of the “conflict of interest” term is to try to convince you that the scientists who actually do the research, analyze the data, and publish the reports cannot be trusted, while the professional antivaxxers who have neither the education nor the experience to really understand the science are the only ones who will tell you the “truth.”
Professional antivaxxers often do have enough of a medical or scientific education to understand the medical literature produced by scientists. But what they do with it is take snippets that they can present out of context with the intent to scare the daylights out of you. They read things into our work that we never said or implied.
A blatant example of presenting facts out of context is the fearmongering over the mRNA contained in vaccines. What professional antivaxxers intentionally do not tell you is that mRNA is contained in every living thing. They don’t tell you that the SARS-CoV-2 virus literally enters your cells and forces them to make mRNA not only for spike protein, but for all of the other 28 proteins that are in the virus. They don’t tell you that a virus infection literally swamps your body with virus particles full of mRNA and covered with spike protein. Instead, they try to scare you about a vaccine.
The difference between getting a vaccine and getting an infection is like the difference between taking a sip of wine and guzzling down a liter of vodka. A sip of wine (e.g. a vaccine) won’t have much effect, but that liter of vodka (e.g. a viral infection) will knock you on your back.
Now, let me get back to that whole “conflict of interest” thing. No one pays me to use my time and read the scientific literature in order to debunk antivax/antiscience rhetoric. I’m not selling anything—no “supplements”, no books, no snake oil, no questionable devices. Scientists typically do not earn as much money as even primary care physicians. Charlatans, on the other hand, who devote a lot of effort to creating and spreading antivax rhetoric, often have websites where they sell all kinds of questionable merchandise; they can become multimillionaires by doing so. For example, Joseph Mercola once stated in an affidavit that his net worth was over $100 million dollars. Contrast that to my net worth, which isn’t even close to $1 million dollars.
Had I been interested in taking the lab director position the CDC once offered me, I’d be making $155k per year. And that is more than I’ve ever actually earned as a scientist. But still significantly less than I could make if I decided to sell snake oil and misinformation.
Don’t try and defend their label as “anti-vax” Refer to them as what they are a Judas Goat.
Oh, my.
Neither Robert Malone nor Luc Montagnier have won Nobel prizes.
As for Luc Montagnier, the most I know about him is that he is a French quack who spread antivax/antiscience misinformation.
However, I happen to have personal experience with Robert Malone, or, as I called him, Bob. When I was a graduate student, I worked in Bob’s lab for a few weeks. My project was to study the fusion of lipid nanosomes with cell membranes. He was trying to develop a transfection reagent. He was trying to develop gene therapy for treatment of cystic fibrosis. He had just received a large grant to study the biology of the HIV virus. As it turned out, I decided to pursue my PhD studies with a different mentor. I saw Bob at a meeting a few years after I graduated and we chit-chatted and he invited me to come visit him and his wife and kids on their farm. I never took him up on the offer, although I think he may still own that farm property.
He did not seem like a kook then, although he seemed fairly liberal and his wife even more so.
You can imagine my surprise when suddenly he surfaced, spreading antivax misinformation and hitting all the conservative shows to do so. Why is he doing this, I wonder?
Well, if there were real concerns about vaccine safety, they would be covered by all of the news outlets and talk shows, liberal, conservative, and neutral. Such concerns would not be targeted only to conservatives if they were real.
So, why is such rhetoric aimed at only conservatives? Well, one reason is that it causes about 6% to 7% more Republicans to die of Covid than Democrats. A higher death rate among Republicans has the potential to change election outcomes. We’re fighting to keep our country free as it is; the fight becomes that much more difficult when there are no longer enough of us to win elections. And I think we all know what happens when socialists keep winning elections, just look at California. Another reason is that if conservatives can be characterized as kooks who completely disdain science and evidence-based medicine, then it becomes difficult to recruit new people to the conservative cause. Who wants to align themselves with kooks?
Oh, FYI, a linearized plasmid is far less of a concern than a circular plasmid. A linearized plasmid gets chewed up not only by the DNAses used during mRNA prep, but by enzymes in your blood, on your skin and mucous membranes, and in your cells. You are literally covered with and full of enzymes that destroy both DNA and RNA. A circular plasmid, however, is harder for the enzymes to destroy and can actually persist for several days inside a cell.
Also, about the spike protein. It covers the coronavirus. This means that when you have a Covid infection, spike protein is spread in large quantities throughout your entire body. Plus, your own cells are making virus mRNA, spike protein, and the other 28 proteins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
As I said before, getting a vaccine is like taking a small sip of wine, while catching Covid is like guzzling down an entire liter of vodka. Basically, if you are afraid of the effects of spike protein, you want to protect yourself against catching Covid, because that is how you will be exposed to it in large quantities.
You have a lot of nerve spitting out your propaganda on here especially after so many have suffered from this mRNA “vaccine”. I asked whether your research was ever FUNDED by big pharma, not whether you worked for them directly. You come off as a very slippery character.
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