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To: Chewbarkah

What gets me is everyone complains about “Assistant Democrats” but the minute things get messy, want to crawl back in with the rinos. Everyone knows the fight must first begin within the Republican party before any fight can mounted to take this country back. McCarthy could have prevented this by at least delivering on one or two promises, but it is clear he expected Democrats to protect him after doing their bidding for eight months. None of us know how this will turn out (it seems a lot of rinos are very concerned about their constituents “intimidating” them) and throwing in the towel only empowers the liberal Republicans. We are where we are, we should at least try to fight.


22 posted on 10/22/2023 7:56:46 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Yogafist
but it is clear he expected Democrats to protect him after doing their bidding for eight months.

He gambled that the Democrats wouldn't vote to remove him even though he did everything they asked him to do. They don't care anyway. The election is coming up and even if Donald Trump becomes the Speaker for the next year, it's still worth the price to pay by having McCarthy removed. The Democrats are happy to point out that the Republicans are incapable of governing.

But I think this is a feature by our Founding Fathers. Gridlock is good so nothing get done.

23 posted on 10/22/2023 8:03:58 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Yogafist
Re your #22: Well said. If you're going to fight, fight to win. The RINOs expect everyone to have a price. The 'geniuses' on the 'news' keep blaming the 8 for causing this and calling them traitors, but the fact is these 8 had the courage to drag the real traitors out into the light.

Here are the Republicans who voted against Jordan in the third speaker ballot:

Rep. Don Bacon, of Nebraska, voted for Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry, of North Carolina.
Rep. Vern Buchanan, of Florida, voted for Rep. Byron Donalds, of Florida.
Rep. Ken Buck, of Colorado, voted for Rep. Tom Emmer, of Minnesota.
Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRamer, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Anthony D'Esposito, of New York, voted for former Rep. Lee Zeldin.
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, of Florida, voted for Rep. Steve Scalise, of Louisiana.
Rep. Jake Ellzey, of Texas, voted for Rep. Mike Garcia, of California.
Rep. Drew Ferguson, of Georgia, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, of Pennsylvania, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Andrew Garbarino, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. Carlos Giménez, of Florida, voted for Rep. Kevin McCarthy, of California.
Rep. Tony Gonzales, of Texas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Kay Granger, of Texas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. John James, of Michigan, voted for Donalds.
Rep. Thomas Kean, of New Jersey, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Mike Kelly, of California, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Jennifer Kiggans, of Virginia, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Nick LaLota, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. Michael Lawler, of New York, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks, of Iowa, voted for McHenry.
Rep. Marcus Molinaro, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. John Rutherford, of Florida, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Michael Simpson, of Idaho, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Pete Stauber, of Minnesota, voted for Rep. Bruce Westerman, of Arkansas.
Rep. Steve Womack, of Arkansas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Derrick Van Orden, of New Jersey, was absent.

I can't vote for someone else (none are in my district), but I can continue to deny the GOP any donations.

53 posted on 10/22/2023 9:26:39 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Evil is dropping it's cloak of disguise. Prepare for battle.)
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To: Yogafist

well said

the status quo is suicidal

and changing course is messy


68 posted on 10/22/2023 11:57:37 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Yogafist

” but it is clear he expected Democrats to protect him after doing their bidding for eight months”

Democrats loathed him. And as for saving his hide, there has never been a situation where a congressional minority has crossed over to save the majority’s speaker.

Would Republicans have come to Pelosi’s aid if AOC and her crew had threatened Pelosi’s speakership?


72 posted on 10/23/2023 9:30:10 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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