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To: kabar
There is plenty of hype about their capabilities, but I wouldn't discount the threat they pose.

Nor should you over hype them, either.

Another issue for Russia is the ability to produce mass quantities of these weapons. The first flight was in 2018. They've only produced about 150 since, and since lost a dozen or so over Ukraine.

BUT...

The idea that Putin will use them against our carriers in the Med is rather preposterous. We have NO quarrel with Russia in that part of the world unless they want to have one.

94 posted on 10/22/2023 10:54:30 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Nor should you over hype them, either.

Which is why I provided the Scientific American article. The people who over-hype them are CIC Biden on down.

On March 21, U.S. President Joe Biden confirmed Moscow’s use of a hypersonic missile, saying, “It's the only thing that they can get through with absolute certainty,” and further calling the use of the technology as “consequential.”

The idea that Putin will use them against our carriers in the Med is rather preposterous. We have NO quarrel with Russia in that part of the world unless they want to have one.

There is a Russian naval base in Syria. Russia has supported the administration of incumbent President Bashar al-Assad of Syria since the beginning of the Syrian conflict in 2011: politically, with military aid, and with direct military involvement. The 2015 deployment to Syria marked the first time since the end of the Cold War in 1991 that Russia entered an armed conflict outside the borders of the former Soviet Union.

And the Iranians are also in Syria supporting Assad. And we are in Syria.

The destroyer USS Carney was operating in the northern Red Sea when it shot down missiles and drones originating from Yemen. We are all over the region increasing our exposure to a wider war. We need to get out Amcits and non-essential Embassy personnel throughout the region. They will become targets if they already aren't.

No one is saying that Putin will use them against our carrier groups, but he made a point of saying the supersonic aircraft would enable Russian aviation to monitor developments in the Mediterranean, particularly given the escalating conflict between Israel and the Islamist Hamas group in the region.

“I stressed that this is not a threat, but we will exercise visual control, control with weapons of what is happening in the Mediterranean Sea,” the Russian president said.

This is the real reason:

Putin’s announcement came a day after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Kyiv had deployed US long-range ATACMS missiles for the first time against two Russian airfields.

96 posted on 10/22/2023 11:22:50 AM PDT by kabar
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