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U.S. sending U.S. carrier strike group, additional air defense systems to Persian Gulf
CBS News ^ | October 21, 2023 | Faris Tanyos

Posted on 10/21/2023 10:46:06 PM PDT by McGruff

As tensions heighten in the Middle East amid the escalating Israel-Hamas war, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced late Saturday that the U.S. will redeploy one of its strike groups to the Persian Gulf, as well as send additional air defense systems to the region.

Austin also said that he has placed additional U.S. forces on "prepare to deploy orders," but did not detail how many. Austin earlier this week ordered 2,000 troops to be prepared to deploy to the Middle East.

The latest decision followed "detailed discussions with President Biden on recent escalations by Iran and its proxy forces across the Middle East," Austin said in a statement.

The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and its strike group — which last weekend Austin had announced was being deployed to the eastern Mediterranean Sea to join the USS Gerald R. Ford — will instead be heading to the Persian Gulf, Austin disclosed Saturday.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Iran; Israel; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; mediterraneansea; middleeast; navy; nomorewars; notourproblem; syria; waronterror; wearebroke; weisolationistnow
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1 posted on 10/21/2023 10:46:06 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

It’s obvious that they think Iran is going to get involved

This I think is the reason why Israel has waited to enter Gaza, the Israelis are waiting for all the ships to arrive


2 posted on 10/21/2023 10:50:12 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

>> This I think is the reason why Israel has waited to enter Gaza

I pray you are right, and not Israel succumbing to worldly pressure.


3 posted on 10/21/2023 11:06:20 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush; Nervous Tick

“waiting for all the ships”

From what I understand .. a China fleet has arrived .

A good navel battle would really kick it into high gear.


4 posted on 10/21/2023 11:13:02 PM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: 1of10

>> A good naval battle would really kick it into high gear.

No kidding!


5 posted on 10/21/2023 11:14:34 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: McGruff

What does “2,000 troops to be prepared to deploy to the Middle East” mean?

Are these US troops that will be fighting on the ME?


6 posted on 10/21/2023 11:14:36 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

I know everyone loves to bash the F-35 based upon out of date performance results, but I hope the Air Force is planning on moving them to the region as well. Israel already has them, of course, and one of the first things Israel did after acquiring them several years ago was fly two F-35s right over downtown Tehran. The Iranians didn’t even know they were there. If the plan is to just park a couple of carrier battle groups over there and try to play defense while Iran and its surrogates launch huge waves of missiles, we’ll have problems (even though the anti-missile/anti-aircraft capabilities of the escort ships are mind-boggling). The best way to deter Iran is to make it clear that every inch of their territory will be at risk if they misbehave, and the F-35 is capable of doing that.


7 posted on 10/21/2023 11:21:02 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: McGruff

“Detailed discussion with pResident Biden...”

I’ll bet that was a riveting conversation


8 posted on 10/21/2023 11:30:09 PM PDT by digger48
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To: McGruff

The whole thing reminds me too much of the 1914 July Crisis, where there were many potential conflict zones.

Because of the way the alliances tied the combattants together, a war starting on any one front eventually would spread to all the others.

And that is just what happened then.

And i think it is happening again.


9 posted on 10/21/2023 11:37:40 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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And i think it is happening again.

And just like then, the capitals of great powers are ruled by morons receiving faulty intelligence.

10 posted on 10/22/2023 12:08:08 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Reverend Wright

11 posted on 10/22/2023 12:10:14 AM PDT by 4Liberty (https://twitter.com/Lauren3veMemes/status/1712636606983688420 )
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To: 1of10

I also saw this yesterday and nearly spit my coffee out in a panic.


12 posted on 10/22/2023 12:51:08 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Nervous Tick

If I recall, Russia has a naval base in Syria. What ships does she have in theater? The Black Sea fleet can’t get there because Turkey will not let them, Baltic fleet is too far away. But—if Turkey and Egypt combine into one fleet it could be a challenge. Does Russia have a sub in the area? Our planes could do some real damage but... does Biden have the will to send our ships and seaman into harm’s way?


13 posted on 10/22/2023 12:53:32 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: pierrem15; All

“And just like then, the capitals of great powers are ruled by morons receiving faulty intelligence. “


Another common feature.

There is a “War Party” in every one of the major actors. It may not be dominant, although in some cases it is.

And the War Party always wants a larger war, not a limited war or no war.

Once the conflict starts, it can strengthen the hand of the War Party to push into a larger war.


14 posted on 10/22/2023 12:56:22 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Simplicius76 has maps of the effective range of various weapons for Russians, Hezbollah etc.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-101823-israel-ukraine-war


15 posted on 10/22/2023 1:01:15 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

We are being groomed for a world war. War by spring, I believe—if not sooner. See you at the two minute hate, citizen. Lots of Jobs but rationing and a take down of the Internet. A whole generation of young people may well be killed. Lots of New TV shows. “Metal of Honor winners,” ‘Making do on Meatless Mondays and Thursdays.” “Victory Girls for our men in Uniform”


16 posted on 10/22/2023 1:06:18 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

[We are being groomed for a world war.]

I do believe that this can easily turn into Ezekiel 38. It seems to be building.


Ezekiel 38 will come. You can count on it. It is written in the Word of God.


SAVED FOR REPOSTING


Ezekiel 38 is going to happen one of these days. Prophesied about 2,600 years ago. It’s for the Latter Days (v. 16) and the Latter Years (v. 8) (KJV).

Ezekiel 38 KJV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zuYCM0g2kc

Ezekiel 38 King James Version (KJV)

1 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?

18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face.

19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man’s sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.


17 posted on 10/22/2023 1:19:44 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: noiseman

The use of Aircraft Carrier Strike Groups in the Eastern Mediterranean was talked about yesterday on Steve Bannon’s War Room and potentially how vulnerable they are to attack.

The scenario being talked about was a potential attack on a Carrier launched from land by Hezbollah.

The attack proposed was sure the carrier and it’s support ships could defend against a few drones, what if 100 Iranian drones were launched in a swarm against a carrier, could 15-20 get thru and hit the carrier, if they did what type of damage could they do, little to none, enough damage to require pull back for repairs, or could 15-20 drones sink a carrier or cause enough damage to put it out of action indefinitely.


18 posted on 10/22/2023 1:35:28 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Reverend Wright

The difference between this and the July 1914 crisis is that the United States does not have a military alliance with any of the parties to this conflict and the President (or whoever is in charge) has no authority to deploy US forces in this manner.


19 posted on 10/22/2023 1:39:05 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn)
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To: MachIV; Nervous Tick; 1of10
Ping me if you guys get any updates on Chinese ship movements in regards to this. For it to be Ezekiel 38, Libya and (I think) Sudan will join in with Iran.


20 posted on 10/22/2023 1:46:28 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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