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Europe’s Ukraine Contributions Reveal a Reliable Partnership With the United States
https://www.gmfus.org/news/europes-ukraine-contributions-reveal-reliable-partnership-united-states ^

Posted on 10/19/2023 6:53:18 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

Contrary to popular rhetoric, Europe is outpacing the United States in aid to Ukraine. The Kiel Institute, which closely tracks contributions, estimates total European commitments from member states and institutions as of July 2023 to be over $145 billion, nearly double the United States’ total bilateral commitment of almost $77 billion. This does not take into account any recent announcements, such as those made in the run-up to the October 11 Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting, with Germany just announcing a new aid package worth $1.1 billion.

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Yes indeed. Hannity lied tonight on Fox. Or, he may be terribly misinformed.

He said Europe did participate little. Well, it's the opposite! The participate a lot. And now we have the proof in numbers.

1 posted on 10/19/2023 6:53:18 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

The EU is +€170 billion behind the USA


2 posted on 10/19/2023 6:55:01 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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So according to this article, Ukraine has not received only 140 billion from usa, they have also received another or greater part from europe? Yet they have made zero progress and reclaiming any ground. Unreal.


3 posted on 10/19/2023 6:57:47 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: USA-FRANCE
From the actual Kiel Institute cited;

Over the summer, the European Union has sent a clear signal by announcing a new €50 billion multi-year support package to be delivered between 2023 and 2027, which doubles total EU commitments. The EU’s “Ukraine Facility” is part of the EU’s budget plans until 2027, showing a lasting commitment to support Ukraine.

So pledges for aid in the future count as much as aid already delivered?

4 posted on 10/19/2023 6:59:41 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

I, too, have tried to follow the Ukrainian war and have seen very little of the European contributions. In fact news accounts make one believe the Europeans have been winding down their participation.


5 posted on 10/19/2023 7:05:40 PM PDT by elpadre (rattle snakes)
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And now we have the proof in numbers.

Which numbers? Since January 2022, Ukraine has received a total of $350 billion in foreign aid:

US: 47%, $165 billion
EU: 39%, $136 billion
Other: 14%, $49 billion

Ukraine aid: Where the money is coming from, in 4 charts
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/05/world/ukraine-money-military-aid-intl-dg/index.html

6 posted on 10/19/2023 7:09:51 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: MNDude

“Get your money for nothing...”


7 posted on 10/19/2023 7:09:53 PM PDT by cabojoe ( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; MNDude; Ultra Sonic 007; elpadre

Ukraine Support Tracker: Europe clearly overtakes US, with total commitments now twice as large

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/news/ukraine-support-tracker-europe-clearly-overtakes-us-with-total-commitments-now-twice-as-large/


8 posted on 10/19/2023 7:10:59 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

A THIRD OF A TRILLION DOLLARS? Holy cow, who says you can’t live off of OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY.


9 posted on 10/19/2023 7:16:26 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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Sorry Kraut-funded fake research!

“ The Kiel Institute is an independent foundation under public law of the federal state of Schleswig-Holstein.

“As such it is basically funded by the German Federal Government and the state of Schleswig-Holstein.


10 posted on 10/19/2023 7:18:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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“… total commitments now twice as large…”
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“Commitments” — also known as “Promises”.

Hey, Frenchie, how about comparing what has been actually DELIVERED!


11 posted on 10/19/2023 7:19:09 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: House Atreides

Go check his link.


12 posted on 10/19/2023 7:22:36 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

All such data sources are state funded or partly state funded institutions.

If you’re going to quibble at that then you need to give up on every data source.


13 posted on 10/19/2023 7:25:03 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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Let’s look at WW2 for a second:
The Lend-Lease Act was signed into law on March 11, 1941, and ended on September 20, 1945. A total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to $719 billion in 2021) worth of supplies was shipped from the USA to our allies.

Lets not forget that UK paid back all its lend-lease in 2006.

What Ukraine gets today is NOT given. It’s lend-lease.


14 posted on 10/19/2023 7:29:34 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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Should commitments for future aid not yet delivered count as much as aid already delivered?

Because this Kiel Institute clearly thinks it should.


15 posted on 10/19/2023 7:32:48 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The data in the link (download the spreadsheet) indicates amounts actually transferred and spent. And a great deal else besides.

It’s an essential data source for the Ukraine situation. It is always necessary to put in the work.


16 posted on 10/19/2023 7:40:24 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: USA-FRANCE

Facts are stubborn things:

“The Kiel Institute, which closely tracks contributions, estimates total European commitments from member states and institutions as of July 2023 to be over $145 billion, nearly double the United States’ total bilateral commitment of almost $77 billion”


17 posted on 10/19/2023 7:47:49 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: buwaya

This source is not independent from the western intelligence services putting out propaganda non-stop.

Even the accounting is suspect, as pointed out upthread.


18 posted on 10/19/2023 7:48:54 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Highlighting this fact:

“Lets not forget that UK paid back all its lend-lease in 2006.

What Ukraine gets today is NOT given. It’s lend-lease.”


19 posted on 10/19/2023 7:51:07 PM PDT by Sunsong
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“What Ukraine gets today is NOT given. It’s lend-lease.”

When was this mentioned? Has a repayment promise been made? What’s the schedule?


20 posted on 10/19/2023 8:00:30 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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