Posted on 10/19/2023 12:30:32 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
Not to worry, biden will take them all in...
Biden - Worst. President. Ever.
He would say that. He can't openly take Israel's side in watching Hamas get destroyed even though he wants that too. But Egypt flat doesn't want Palestinian refugees for their own internal reasons and not because Egypt is trying to counter so-called "Israeli tactics". Egypt had the chance to take Gaza back when they signed the Camp David Peace Deal with Israel. They didn't want it then, and they don't want it now.
I think they could be persuaded to throw in a whole bunch of 'Algerians' and such...
Siberia is nice this time of year.
It is no surprise whatsoever that most countries do not want Hamas, PLO, et al in their midst. Many of the countries around Israel had to forcibly remove, kick them out. Just use your favorite search engine and type in Black September and Jordan.
Biden and many others keep saying the Palestinians are not the Hamas - that the Palestinians are innocent by-standers and played no role in the October 7th terrorist attack. They need humanitarian aid and a path for migration.
This is simply NOT true. The Parliament of Palestine has 132 members elected by the population, in-person voting. Hamas has been the majority party since 2006. Currently, Hamas controls 74 seats and the PLO, 50 seats, plus two other minor ones. Palestine is a terrorist nation, and must be treated as such.
Siberia is nice this time of year.
Not exactly. The Romans named the province "Palestine" some 2000-odd years ago after one of the Jewish anti-Rome rebellions, mostly just to "punish" the Hebrews for the revolt by naming the province after their biblical enemy.
The people who identify as Palestinians today are mostly descendants of 'fairly recent' immigrants to the land, just like most of the Jews are. Just go back say 100-150 years, the land was basically barren. The Ottomans ruled it. Jews trickled in as Europe grew more hostile to them. The Jewish immigrants improved the land. That increased the absorptive capacity of the land, so Arabs came in too. Then after WW1, Britain took control of the former Ottoman empire and promised a small strip for a Jewish homeland. More Jews came, this time with more skills learned in Europe about irrigation and crop growing, so they irrigated and increased the absorptive capacity even further. More Arabs came. The Arabs and Jews clashed a lot between WW1 and WW2. Then WW2 ended and the Jews that survived Europe felt they could no longer trust their neighbors who didn't protect them, and moved. More clashes, and the Jews and Arabs both clashed with the British. By 1948 the Jews organized under one umbrella (after some infighting including attacks by their own groups) and declared indepedence. The Arabs on the other hand were not organized and tried to hide behind their brethren in Syria, Jordan, Egypt etc (which is where they or their close ancestors came from in the first place) who promised to kick the Jews out. There are some contemporaneous reports that the Arab states (all created by the British, with a token given to France) warned the Arabs to leave the territory to make way for the Arab Armies that were invading. So many left. But, the Arabs lost. And they lost several more times. The displaced Arabs are in Jordan, and Lebanon, and the West Bank and Gaza. But not all. Some are Israeli, and some are Israel "green card" holders who refuse citizenship but reside there. But to say it is "Palestinian" land is a misnomer. The Palestinians named themselves after the name the Romans gave the territory which was ruled at the time by Jews.
Bottom line is, there were always some people living there, mostly in Jerusalem and in the more fertile northern and western areas. They were Arab and Jew under Ottoman rule, then British rule. The population growth from 1848 to 1948 was exponential including both Arab and Jew.
After 1948, somewhere between 500k-1MM Jews that were living in Arab lands for 2000 years fled and moved into Israel out of fear. Then after the Cold War another 500k-1MM Soviet Union Jews moved in.
For the most part, they are all "colonizers" if you want to think in those terms but really the Jews were mostly refugees and the Arabs were mostly immigrants who came to capitalize on the improvements made in that period of time. And they "colonized" basically barren land, and improved it. But the Arabs didn't accept any partition of the land for a Jewish homeland, and here we are today.
The idea that Palestinians are literal descendants of Philistines or any other ancient tribe is false. They are as newly arrived as the Jews, only without any sense of order in how to create their own homeland in where they reside. In their minds they are still stuck in 1948.
The Jewish population increased much faster than the Muslim (or Christian) population. Most of the growth in the Arab population can be accounted for by natural population growth, rather than by immigration.
Perfect.
Would you want animals who are willing to murder, rape, behead babies and innocent civilians living in your neighborhood? Of course not!
I know, there are those who will say "they aren't all like that ... the majority live and raise families and don't murder anyone". And I would answer that they condone, support, or at least tolerate those that do. They let them launch missiles out of their own yards. They celebrate when Jews are murdered. They give their sons to the cause.
So why will no one take them in? It's really pretty simple...
The Arabs won’t take them for the same reason that Russia never opened up her border for those poor “Russian-speaking Ukrainians” that they claimed were being “shelled daily” by the Ukrainian army.
They need those people to be right where they are, as a ready-made excuse for future interventions.
Many, if not most of the so-called ‘palestinians’ are actually decedents of Jordianians. I’d send them all to Jordan, and let them do what they will with them.
Jordan
Lebanon
Kuwait
Egypt
Why do they not want to take them in?
Gee, let me think.
Nope.
Nothing comes to mind.
:eyeroll:
Mý opinion: Hamas will continue to harass Israel, and even more so without borders or walls. The host countŕies would suffer the blame. Jordan and Isreal have peace agreements with Israel, having Hamas would jeopardize those agreements. They don’t want war. The middle east would become even more unstable.
Thanks for that summary.
Bkmrk
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