Automakers Have Big Hopes for EVs; But Buyers Aren’t Cooperating: Sales growth has slowed in the U.S. as car companies are finding a limited pool of consumers willing to pay more for these models

Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/15/2023 | Sean Mclain

[Chickensoup]

They will literally become a throwaway car when it reaches its end of life. It will be less expensive to buy a new one than to repair the old one. That isn’t exactly a new concept. Since around 2010 or so, a high percentage of American and European made cars are also throwaway cars. Their value drops so low due to quality issues that they too are not worth fixing.

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I read a number of years ago that vehicle manufacturers were so jealous of computer manufacturers who had progressed to throw away boxes and software subscriptions. That is the plan.itwill come fully in effect as boomers die off and there is no memory of ec competence

[EVO X]

The time hasn’t come for me to buy an EV..

[Yardstick]

EVs fit a niche use case and Tesla almost totally owns that niche. This gives Tesla some impressive numbers but the niche isn’t big enough to support all the big players jumping in.

The niche can’t grow into a broader market without serious breakthroughs in battery technology and massive upgrades to the electrical power infrastructure. Just getting the batteries up to snuff is a huge problem on its own. But the infrastructure is a bigger problem and no one wants to even talk about it.

[FreedomPoster]

Yeah, don’t get me started on that last. While I have no doubt they cheated, I also have no doubt that EPA has been unnecessarily ratcheting up emissions requirements for a long time in an effort to do away with ICE vehicles.

EPA started as a good idea, but like just about everything governmental, has turned into a bloated over-powerful nightmare.

[FreedomPoster]

I’d love to see that data presented as a percentage of all vehicles. That would be quite illuminating as to the magnitude of the transition the Federal central planners are forcing upon us.

[FreedomPoster]

When you do talk about the lack of generation and transmission/distribution grid, you often get denial. Green is a religion to many.

[EVO X]

The bottom link will give you that info if you click the right buttons at the bottom of the page. 2.5% of cars in CA are EVs..

[RideForever]

Then there’s the physical limitation of no EVs within 200 miles of salt water, which internally corrodes and cause battery fires to erupt spontaneously. There should be a coastal ‘no go’ zone for EVs.

[HamiltonJay]

This customer won’t only refuse to pay MORE for a lesser product, but for my needs won’t pay a dime for an EV.. they are not remotely able to meet my needs.

[Montana_Sam]

EV’s have a resale value on a par with a fresh dog-log.

It is embarrassing to see so many theoretically intelligent people buy into the EV hype.
EV’s are total losers.

[vpintheak]

Indeed.

[Boomer]

I can envision small electric stations that are powered by some kind of regular fuel like diesel or LPG installed in communities all over just for the sole purpose of charging EV’s overnight.

The funny thing is the EV’s will still be powered by regular fuel, just not directly.

I suppose small Nuclear plants could do the same thing and be even cleaner but the climate cult will fight that too.

[EVO X]

Then there’s the physical limitation of no EVs within 200 miles of salt water

Tesla doesn't have any operating limitations on the distance from the ocean. It looks to me like a vast majority of their supercharging stations in Florida are within 20 miles of the ocean. EVs don't like being submerged in water, especially salt water. I have to wonder if there are vents on the top side of the battery sled to help cool it.