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To: NautiNurse

Exactly!

Sometimes, just sometimes war comes to you whether you want it or not.

Some people are seeing this through the Russian/Ukraine lens only, and that is affecting their judgement on some pretty ugly stuff. Deliberate killing of women, kids and old people while taking hostages are not legal means of warfare.

Some are trying to say the Jews planned this so they could raze Gaza.

You can’t turn people who want to believe the most crazy conspiracy theories when even evidence appears, because they will believe what they want rather than what they hear.

I believe we can let Israel deal with this without our help.

No war mongers needed. We can help the most by not trying to hold them back, but actually have their back this time.


35 posted on 10/08/2023 3:29:06 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Some people are seeing this through the Russian/Ukraine lens ...

Which is appropriate.

Russia has also killed women and children, largely through their missile attacks. I remember seeing a photo of a small Ukrainian girl who'd had her arm amputated.

And while Israel's death toll is currently about 700, Ukrainians deaths are currently about 70,000 (plus several hundred thousand wounded). So Ukraine is a far greater humanitarian catastrophe than Israel.

Plus, Ukraine is weaker than Russia, whereas Israel is stranger than Hamas.

Yet even so, while I sympathize (and have donated to Catholic relief efforts), I do not think the U.S. should be involved. In Ukraine or Israel.

42 posted on 10/08/2023 3:38:24 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Alas Babylon!
Some people are seeing this through the Russian/Ukraine lens only, and that is affecting their judgement on some pretty ugly stuff.

No. Their "judgement" is not the issue. Free Republic has become so inundated with paid propagandists on both sides that it is losing its utility. You can't talk about any topic here without the propagandists flooding the threads with contorted logic about how Russia or Ukraine are the ultimate cause/villain behind it all.

A pox on all of their houses. May they both lose.

We need to step out of the way and let Israel take care of its Hamas problem, the old fashion way...

63 posted on 10/08/2023 6:56:03 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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