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To: Jim W N
OK the Constitution didn’t invent the name the United States of America, but it created a completely different USofA than existed before.

Not only did the Constitution not invent the name United States of America, it did not create the nation called the United States of America.

The USA before and after the Constitution was the same country. The type of government was greatly changed and the membership was temporarily reduced to eleven states when Washington was inaugurated.

You stated the Constitution created the United States. It did not. That claim is simply wrong. Martin Van Buren became the first natural born citizen President in 1837. All before that were citizens of the United States at the time the Constitution was adopted. That fact eliminates any possibility whatever that the Constitution created the United States.

I don’t know what you are opposing here.

[Jim W N #21] But what Trump doesn’t seem to understand is THE CONSTITUTION CREATED AMERICA!

[Jim W N #55] Well, the Constitution created the United States of America.

I am opposing your repeated fallacious claim that the Constitution created the United States. The people of the United States created the Constitution. Making believe you do not know what you said is neither helpful nor persuasive.

79 posted on 10/04/2023 9:17:10 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher

You completely miss the point.

Before the Constitution, the USA was a collection of colonies under the weak Articles of Confederation (AOC) and was very vulnerable to foreign invasion. That was the reason they decided to scrap the AOC and create the Constitution as with a strong military and decentralized governance as the Supreme Law of the Land. That is why your objections are mouse nuts - you completely miss the point. The Constitution creates a new governance for the USA.

“We’ve given you a republic”, Ben Franklin famously said in leaving the constitutional convention.

The point is 1) the greatest threat to our lives, liberties, and wellbeing is the $3+ trillion 80%+ unconstitutional portion of the federal government which has become totalitarian and 2) In order to restore our Free Constitutional Republic we MUST reinstate the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land over the feds. THAT’S the point.

I’m not going to continue to waste time going around and around with you about your hair-splitting arguments which completely miss the point of the grave threat we face to today and the solution to that threat. Get with you Leftist buddies. I’m sure they’d love to engage in as much deflection as possible. It’s what they’ve been doing for 100+ years.


81 posted on 10/05/2023 6:33:25 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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