Posted on 09/22/2023 8:30:19 PM PDT by Reverend Wright
Russia has managed to overcome sanctions and export controls imposed by the West to expand its missile production beyond prewar levels, according to U.S., European and Ukrainian officials, leaving Ukraine especially vulnerable to intensified attacks in the coming months...
Overall, Kusti Salm, a senior Estonian defense ministry official, estimated that Russia’s current ammunition production is seven times greater than that of the West.
Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.
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It has yet another confirmation of the rule of 10 difference in the cost of Russian munitions vs USA/NATO.
Western stuff costs an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE more than the Russian equivalent. That's one big reason why the USA has a trillion dollar National Security budget and doesn't have much to show for it.
But but the Atlantic Council says we need to prepare to fight Russia and China at the same time.
“But but the Atlantic Council says we need to prepare to fight Russia and China at the same time.”
Maybe someday these NeoCons will get some personal consequences for the destructive nonsense they have been promoting for decades.
It seems like it will never happen. But one thing we do see now is the crime wave that rich liberals were happy to impose on others has now come home to their rich enclaves.
The warmongers on the left keep trying to sell fantasies about Russia being out of ammo and fighting with shovels, or using washing machine chips for rocket control, or having to beg North Korea for ammo. The exact opposite is true.
Sacrificing safety and quality?
No, actually Russia doesn’t have to worry about bureaucratic red tape and acquiescencing to purple-haired, nose-ring wearing woke and racial justice activists that are prevalent in the Pentagon here.
They haven’t even used a fraction of their military capabilities.
I actually hope Russia does pull a Normandy on Ukraine, so the war whore simps can STFU.
Another example is the new .277 Fury high pressure round.
Current AK ammo is estimated to cost the Russians $0.20 per round.
AR ammo costs the Pentagon approx $0.25, which isn’t too bad.
But the new hybrid case .277 Fury round is $4.00 for civilian bulk buys, which is approx double what the Pentagon pays.
So, yes, once again 10x the cost difference !
Yep, and every few months the Ukes get a new Wunderwaffe like Javlins, Excaliburs, HIMARS, Leopards, etc and think it is going to turn the tide… it never does. All it does is give the Russians an opportunity to test and develop countermeasures. God help us if we ever really need them because the Russians would roll us. The sooner this is over the better.
The USA has the most expensive government money can buy. We've had nearly 80 uninterrupted years to build a massive, bloated, DC-centric system of mutual back-scratching, self-serving, and corruption - all funded by printed money and massive debt.
Defense is the biggest category and the most glaring example
And the irony is, the idiot Deep-state give Ukraine the weapons just at the right speed and amounts, not to fast and not too slow, for the Russians to train themselves up, develop countermeasures, destroy a bunch, and get comfortable with them, before the next system is debated and introduced.
These are the facts as I see them:
1.) There is no offensive and there will not be one.
2.) Russia cannot be removed from the provinces they have taken. (See #1)
3.) The U.S. and European nations has steadily escalated by sending more advanced and longer range weapons to Ukraine. That has been in response to losing to Russia on the ground.
4.) Ukraine has made direct strikes on Russian soil using these longer range weapons. Well, that’s the official story, but you know, I know and the Russians know that has not been done without significant help of advisors, if not actual U.S. or NATO forces. This idea that some Ukrainian is pushing a button is infantile.
5.) Putin is receiving pressure to do something about these attacks. He has several choices.
a.) He can have another offensive - March west in Ukraine.
b.) He can begin directly attacking the providers of long range weapons.
c.) He could maintain the status quo.
d.) He can negotiate for peace.
That brings us to where we are today. Negotiating for peace is currently off the table. Biden and neocon warmongers have scuttled every peace talk since before the war began. They stubbornly do not want to talk about peace.
The status quo will only last for so long. That is particularly true considering the next weapons that will be sent to Ukraine. Attacking targets in Russia does not change the presence of Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine. But it will enrage the Russian people and there will be greater pressure to attack the West. It is a serious miscalculation to think there will be pressure to remove Putin. You only need to put yourself in Russian citizens’ shoes. Imagine if it was your town being attacked. Most Americans will want to use force to retaliate.
Russia’s option to renew offensive operations is certainly on the table. Consider the information in this article. Russian capabilities are in place. Ukraine has essentially lost the ground war. There is no Ukrainian offensive. It ain’t happening. They are not capable. Russia will eventually take the rest of Ukraine and the only thing to stop that is direct fighting by U.S. and European forces. That’s WW III.
I’ll end here, because we will lose our asses in WW III. We are not fighting some pissant nation like Iraq or Afghanistan. You don’t need to be reminded that we lost those wars. Our military leadership is a bunch of woke losers. That’s all you need to know other than if WW III begins, Russia will attack targets in the U.S. They ain’t the Taliban.
Globalist propagandists: Lying liars who lie.
And we see which countries are serious and which are un-serious assclown world regimes. A huge reason Trump had to be gotten rid of by the assclowns.
The only thing that would shut up these pukes, short of a mass-ZOT, which should’ve happened last year, is their globalist benefactors cut off their $$. They’ll vanish from FR in a heartbeat.
Putin sees this and is lining up a list of allies to join him in the fight—China, Iran, North Korea, Serbia, Syria and maybe Others. Will NATO Fight? questionable. Germany and Poland seem to be getting cold feet. France has other fish to fry (in Africa). England has many internal problems. America isn’t unified and it will be hard to get the woke mob in the mood for war. Who have the homecourt advantage? Russia. Lets hope wiser heads prevail and we can settle this thing.
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