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To: Bobalu

Oh my gosh. Why not just get republicans to vote? That’d be a better way to win. This New Hampshire loss in a red district is most disappointing. Since 2016, we haven’t won much. There are reasons beyond fraud. Unfortunately, that’s the excuse that seems to resonate which doesn’t get to the core problem. We better figure it out or we’ll have nothing.


9 posted on 09/22/2023 3:55:28 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator
There are reasons beyond fraud.

I don't believe that. No president in history ever got 74 million votes. This is a record vote total for a presidential election, and we have no doubt these are *REAL* votes from real voters.

But Biden getting 81 million, the year all the safeguards on elections were removed?

No. Didn't happen. Barack Obama represented the highest voter enthusiasm for a Democrat in history, and he only got to 65 million. Biden beats Barack Obama, the most popular Democrat president in our lifetime, by 16 million votes?

No. Didn't happen.

21 posted on 09/22/2023 4:01:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: napscoordinator
There are reasons beyond fraud.

You don't know that.

66 posted on 09/22/2023 4:37:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: napscoordinator

It’s almost pathological at this point. I group of folks with daffy political instincts have been in control of the party since 2016 (taking control away from a corrupt establishment with bad political instincts). Now that the new groups policies aren’t triumphing at the polls, it’s easier for them to tell themselves that all of the losses are due to fraud. For the record, I think that there is some fraud. I think there probably always has been to some degree. But, if I had to bet on it, these losses aren’t do to fraud. They’re happening because the new brand has motivated the opposition more than it’s own voters. I’d also venture to say that all of the supporters who badmouth all other Republicans as establishment deep staters have created this storm by ensuring that their voters don’t want to vote for other Republicans candidates because they now believe they aren’t worth it. They have created a cluster farm 🙄😵‍💫😵😳😒


77 posted on 09/22/2023 4:54:00 PM PDT by redheadedshannon
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To: napscoordinator
Unfortunately, that’s the excuse that seems to resonate which doesn’t get to the core problem.

My take - some of that is due to willful ignorance, some of that is due to low intellect (just unable to process and reason why the losses are occurring).

So they bleet “Fraud” at almost every opportunity.

127 posted on 09/22/2023 11:56:25 PM PDT by Fury
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