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To: SoConPubbie

What is the American vital interest in Ukraine?

I understand we decided we’re on the side of Ukraine, because Russia started this war by invading Ukraine ,and Putin is the bad guy and all of that.

But what is our Vital interest in this War and why do we need to spend billions of dollars and give military aid in a war in which we don’t have a stake?


10 posted on 09/22/2023 9:49:40 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Excellent question that none of the war conservatives or the warmongers can seem to answer. Their only line is we can’t do appeasement like Germany in 1938 and that was a completely different situation and time. Nobody wants to talk about any of the previous US administrations, NATO and Western Europe’s shady and illegal antics in the Ukraine for the last twenty-five years.

Am I saying that the US is responsible for the Ukraine war-NO, but we are not the innocent, minding our own business little fawns either in this quagmire. This is a war that could have been avoided with some statesmanship, diplomacy and some forward looking strategic thinking by the USA, something that hasn’t been in Washington DC since Ronald Reagan left town in January 1989. Trump was on the right trail and it would have exposed a lot of dirt and corruption on the part of many western politicians and countries and it would have kept the peace and that couldn’t be allowed, so war, again...


32 posted on 09/22/2023 10:06:13 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Nimarata is very glib about winning a shooting war with Russia via the “provide aid” to a small country method. The weapons and $B provided so far are probably miniscule compared to what victory would require.

So I continue to wonder what is really going on. Probably pick any combination from this list: incompetence, corruption, kickbacks, treason, stupidity, inertia and zero accountability.

The net result from this feckless neocon/globalist bunch, if we manage to avoid WWIII, will probably be a further diminished USA and a decimated generation of Ukrainian young people.


49 posted on 09/22/2023 10:21:35 AM PDT by SiGeek
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To: Dilbert San Diego
because Russia started this war by invading Ukraine ,and Putin is the bad guy and all of that.

Which is all a nice bedtime story for Bonzo, but reality is a bit more complex.

And you hit the nail on the head - whose vital interests are at stake? Russias are because of NATO expansion, efforts to isolate Russia from the Black Sea, etc. and our warmongers have made it pretty clear that they are an existential threat to Russia [that is the ultimate goal for neocons starting with the global stratetgy laid out by Brzezinski. But we don't. And so that has to enter into the calculus of nuclear weapons exchange. And that is what our neocons are not doing.

74 posted on 09/22/2023 11:39:59 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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