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Why is DeSantis tanking?
Washington Examiner ^ | September 21, 2023 12:34 PM | by Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent

Posted on 09/21/2023 11:12:27 AM PDT by conservative98

WHY IS DESANTIS TANKING? A new poll Wednesday from the University of New Hampshire shook up the world of political obsessives who watch each twist and turn in the race for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. No, there was no change at the top — former President Donald Trump is still in the lead in New Hampshire, 26 points ahead of the nearest competitor. The news was that Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL), for a long time Trump's chief rival, has slipped to fifth place in New Hampshire, the second state to vote in the GOP primary contest.

Fifth place! How did that happen? How did DeSantis come to trail not only Trump, with 39% of the vote, but, in order, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, with 13%; former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, with 12%; and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, with 11%? DeSantis's 10% of the vote in New Hampshire puts him at what might be called the bottom of the second tier. The first tier, of course, is Trump all by himself. The second tier is the group from Ramaswamy to DeSantis. After that, the third tier is Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC), with 6%, former Vice President Mike Pence, with 2%, and Gov. Doug Burgum (R-ND) and former Texas Rep. Will Hurd, with 1% each.

The first thing to consider is whether the new Granite State poll is an outlier. The answer is, it appears not. There haven't been many polls in New Hampshire — just one so far this month, two in August, and three in July — but DeSantis has been bobbing around between 8% and 11% since the summer. Before that, in polls going back to January, he was significantly higher.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byronyork; desantis; desantiscult; nevertrumpexaminer; tds; trump
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To: Political Junkie Too
Now you're just deflecting. It was a straight-forward question that you obviously don't want to or can't answer because your position is flawed.

Nope, not deflecting at all. Yours was not a straight-forward question. It was another attempt to prove there's something extraordinary in Ron DeSantis -- when there is nothing even close to it .

I simply proved it.

61 posted on 09/21/2023 1:10:48 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: Alberta's Child

Trump upped his game.


62 posted on 09/21/2023 1:15:30 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Tell It Right
So it's probably wise for DeSantis to stay in the race in case they wind up putting Trump in handcuffs.
What pathetic low-life losers you "just wait til" people are.
63 posted on 09/21/2023 1:25:15 PM PDT by lewislynn ( Trump accomplished more for America in one 4yr term than any President in your lifetime)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
You simply provided a dissenting opinion. That's not proof of anything.

But you did seem to imply that DeSantis performed no better than a meth addict would.

-PJ

64 posted on 09/21/2023 1:32:22 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: conservative98

He’s a great governor. There are many fine governors who didn’t go national.


65 posted on 09/21/2023 2:05:38 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: conservative98

Because he’s a deep state tool and most people have realized it.


66 posted on 09/21/2023 2:06:51 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: catnipman

I think that about covers it.


67 posted on 09/21/2023 2:17:10 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: frogjerk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8_pgBQdH3o

From first victory speech as governor, DeSantis thanks Trump at 6:41+

Sometimes it pays to do some research before asserting your opinion as truth when it wasn’t true at all.


68 posted on 09/21/2023 2:20:38 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: conservative98

What’s easy to miss is that it’s not so much the candidate that’s the issue, as the system. And Trump is unique among all other candidates in that he isn’t controlled by the system. All the other candidates are controlled to some degree and that’s why, when people say “There’s Trump, and then there’s everyone else”, it’s not just some boast. It’s an honest analysis of the situation.

Until our political system is reformed in some way, it’s safe to say that any candidate running for president is controlled or compromised. The system is set up to weed out anyone who isn’t before we ever even get to primary season. Trump is the exception that proves the rule.

Under certain circumstances, DeSantis might be a competent chief executive. But he’s not a leader, and he’s not a visionary and he’s not willing or able to defy the Uniparty on important policy issues. If he were, his campaign would have run out of money before it ever got off the ground.


69 posted on 09/21/2023 2:42:18 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Political Junkie Too
Because Republican voters decided to make the re-election of President Trump as a symbolic message that they're angry at DC and their self-serving abuses of power.

So how will Trump win?

70 posted on 09/21/2023 2:45:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Tell It Right

“So it’s probably wise for DeSantis to stay in the race in case they wind up putting Trump in handcuffs.”

If that happens there will not be any elections...it amazes me how many people are blind to where we are as a “nation” at this time. We are in total collapse...Trump is literally the only hope we have to reasonably survive...wake up. Democrats are not going to give up power, they are not going to get nicer, more honest or moral. They will go the other way no matter what happens...


71 posted on 09/21/2023 2:56:36 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Alberta's Child

DeSantis is also tanking because he lied to his donors, telling them he wasn’t running for President. Many of these same donors came forward and said they wouldn’t have donated to him if they knew he was going to run against Trump.


72 posted on 09/21/2023 3:21:13 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: conservative98

He’s playing the part of this year’s Bush clan entry. If he acted as though he would be President like he is Governor, he’d be in a better spot, IMHO.


73 posted on 09/21/2023 3:22:22 PM PDT by MortMan (Lawfare puts the label on the banana republic.)
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To: conservative98
People found out he is in bed with the McCain girls ... Cindy must still be hoping for an ambassadorship to the UK ... MagPie Mega Megan probably wants to be his press secretary ... a couple of big boobs...
74 posted on 09/21/2023 3:24:22 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

So how will anyone else win?


75 posted on 09/21/2023 3:28:50 PM PDT by dforest
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To: MinorityRepublican
I didn't say he would. I said that voters are sending a message via their support for him.

-PJ

76 posted on 09/21/2023 3:37:31 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: dforest

I have my opinion. And that will be that.


77 posted on 09/21/2023 3:38:01 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Political Junkie Too
I said that voters are sending a message via their support for him.

You're right. So be it. It looks like the primaries are pretty much over. Even if Trump does not win Iowa. Mayor Pete won Iowa. Santorum won Iowa in 2012, I think. So Iowa isn't that important.

78 posted on 09/21/2023 3:40:07 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Wpin
I'm with you on being all in on Trump. Especially after the RINO money started pouring into DeSantis.

I'm just saying from a strategy perspective, if I was DeSantis, why it might be wise to stay in the run longer even if Trump seems like the sure win.

79 posted on 09/21/2023 4:15:23 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: conservative98

Why?

It’s not complicated….

He’s not Trump.

You can dress it up 19 ways to Sunday, but when you distill it all down, that’s it.

“I’m just like that guy you really like, but somehow I’m better.”


80 posted on 09/21/2023 4:24:10 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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