Skip to comments.Did Poland Just Torpedo NATO And Ukraine?
Posted on 09/21/2023 10:14:57 AM PDT by Kazan
Sure looks like it. AFP is reporting that:
Poland will no longer arm Ukraine to focus on its own defence, Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Wednesday, a few hours after Warsaw summoned Kyiv’s ambassador amid a row over grain exports.
To quote Andrei Martyanov, WOWSER! Remember the collapse of the Kakhovka Dam in Ukraine in the early hours of 6 June 2023, which caused extensive flooding along the lower Dnieper river? This is worse. This may explain the “Grumpy Gus” visage adorning Zelensky, his crew, as well as John Kerry and Antony Blinken yesterday at the UN General Assembly during Biden’s awful speech.
It is true that Biden’s speech sucked, but it was not the kind of debacle that would justify the facial expressions of dismay and anger. I think the Ukrainian/U.S. crew were stewing over impending bad news from Poland.
Initial press reports said that Poland’s leader, Duda , cancelled a previously scheduled meeting with Zelensky as Poland rallied a coalition of European nations to extend a ban on Ukrainian grain exports. The Associated Press reported:
Polish leaders have compared Ukraine to a drowning person hurting his helper and threatened to expand a ban on food products from the war-torn country. Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy suggested that EU allies that are prohibiting imports of his nation’s grain are helping Russia.
Now, Polish officials, who are trying to win parliamentary elections next month with help from farmers’ votes, are expressing dismay over some of Ukraine’s latest moves, including a World Trade Organization complaint over bans on Ukrainian grain from Poland and two other EU countries.
Now Poland is upping the pressure by putting the kibosh on sending arms to Ukraine. It is unknown whether this will this also include a ban on other NATO countries using Poland as a logistics transit hub for NATO weapons? Another critical question — What does this mean for the U.S. troops currently deployed in Poland? Barring some high profile rapes or brawls by U.S. troops in Wroclaw, Poland, I suspect the Poles want to keep the Americans in place an an insurance policy.
This marks the first significant event where domestic politics — this time in Poland — is undercutting support for NATO’s plan to inflict a long term war on Russia.
Meanwhile, if you have any doubts that the United States is the number one country in the World for military “interventions” just take a look at this report from the U.S. Congressional Research Service, Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad 1798 – 2023. Since 1991, the United States has launched more than 200 military operations in foreign countries. Russia and China combined have been involved in less than 20 such activities. Just think about those numbers the next time you hear some American politician bloviate about the imperial ambitions of Russia and China. To paraphrase comedian Jeff Foxworthy, “If you launch an average of 9 foreign invasions a year you might be an Imperialist.”
I hope my heritage did!!!! PROUD for them if this is true
Poland cannot continue to exist if Ukraine is allowed to fall. Simple as that. And, it’s not just Poland that will be in deep shiite.
A good report until the propaganda. The US is not inflicting a war on Russia, and yeah convince yourself the USA is the world’s big bad “interventionist” and Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and a lot of other murderers will be eating your lunch.
It sounds like this will all get sorted out after the Polish elections in a month.
A little history lesson for you Putin lovers
Article 5 was only invoked once after 911 attack on usa
NATO was called upon when USA invaded Afghanistan because of 912
Once a nato country gets attacked then article 5 will get triggered and USA enters a war
If Russia enters Baltic or Poland land then article 5 is triggered and USA enters war like nato did after 911
Home of the brave ? We will see
Cheaper to stop Russia now then later
That’s for dummies who don’t understand
I respect Poland more than any other country in Europe. Actions speak louder than words. They’ve proven themselves. They’ve been proving themselves ever since the Battle of Britain.
Tgis report was good in explaining that the upcoming Polish elections are the reason the Poles decided to really dump on Ukraine at this time.
I support Ukraine but Zelensky has proven a disaster as a diplomat. He’s alienating the Republicans here and pissing off his European allies. Obviously he should have kept his mouth shut on Poland until after their elections.
Yes his country is in a big war but he has to walk that tightrope.
As far as Israel is concerned there were a lot of Ukrainians, Lativans, Lithuanians and Estonians as well as some Poles who assisted in the Holocaust not to forget Romanians and so on.
All this war in Ukraine does is kill the ancestors of those who helped kill Jews in Ukraine and if it spreads it will kill the ancestors of those who killed Jews in other nations near to Russia.
And needless to say Russians who ancestors persecuted Jews in Soviet and Czarist pogroms also assume room temperature.
Is there a G-d?
Probably just a negotiating tactic. There’s no planet on which the Poles actually want to see the Russians win.
*It sounds like this will all get sorted out after the Polish elections in a month.*
I’’m waiting for the elections in Argentina next month.
No worries there.
American troops are being trained in the French Mistake these days.
There’s no planet on which the Poles actually want to see the Russians win.
Why did the Pole shoot the German before the Russian?
Business before pleasure.
Well done Poland!!
One of the smartest people I know lives in Chadds Ford.
Some are Putin lovers but mainly they are Biden haters, globalism haters and I’m sorry to say many have allowed it to turn them into America haters. Oh and isolationists.
It’s difficult to support a Biden administration war especially because the Biden administration brought this war on by retreating from Afghanistan And not standing up to Russia prior to the invasion. The democrats are bound to screw this up they are an evil and stupid bunch.
Although I agree Russia should be opposed in Ukraine I would be very happy to have president Trump come back and impose a peace on all parties to end this debacle in Europe.
Poland knows this is a corrupt money-laundering operation. Kudos to them for wanting no part of it.
Anything that is so ardently supported by Soros, the WEF, Biden, Obama, Pelosi, Graham, McConnell and that nasty bunch certainly bears further scrutiny.
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