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US fails to get Zelensky to negotiate with Russia
Asia Times ^

Posted on 09/21/2023 3:53:01 AM PDT by FarCenter

Washington and some NATO partners made a strong effort to see if Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky could be put on a peace track with Russia. The effort failed, and Zelensky’s visit to the UN and Washington is aimed at creating support to continue the war – in particular, achieving a commitment from Congress to approve another $24.9 billion in assistance and new weapons for Ukraine’s arsenal.

The House of Representatives, where all money bills must originate, is struggling at the moment over a continuing resolution (CR) to keep federal funding going. The $24.9 billion for Ukraine is not in any proposed CR, at least so far.

The Biden administration Ukraine request breaks down to $13.1 billion for military assistance; $8.5 billion allegedly for humanitarian assistance; and $2.3 billion for “financing and to catalyze donors through the World Bank,” whatever that means.

(Excerpt) Read more at asiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ruzzia; ruzzians; sovietunion; ussr
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1 posted on 09/21/2023 3:53:01 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

I guess pie is pie, no matter
the size of the piece.
I would love to see our
elected show as much concern
with our domestic ills.


2 posted on 09/21/2023 4:00:09 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right

No more Money for Ukraine.


3 posted on 09/21/2023 4:02:22 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: FarCenter

STOP THE MONEY (Laundering)!


4 posted on 09/21/2023 4:07:40 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tennmountainman

I saw Paul speak a day or 2 ago. I think he said we have sent them 113 billion dollars? This is money we are creating like Monopoly money or borrowing from CHINA!

I’m unsure why he hasn’t got much traction or push to be POTUS, he seems to be genuinely concerned with the state of our union. As much or more than anyone out there.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5084790/senator-rand-paul-vows-hold-government-spending-bill-includes-aid-ukraine


5 posted on 09/21/2023 4:09:18 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: FarCenter

I could get them to make peace in 24 hours.


6 posted on 09/21/2023 4:10:11 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: FarCenter

The border of Ukraine is more important to the DC crowd than the American border.


7 posted on 09/21/2023 4:10:39 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: FarCenter

This war has ruined us most of all our alliances, it will be the disaster of us all.

What a pathetic joke of a nation we’ve become, can’t even stop the unrestricted immigration...

...we deserve our come-upance.


8 posted on 09/21/2023 4:15:38 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: Ann Archy

We could easily get Zelensky to negotiate with Russia again by using the same methodology applied in Spring 2022 to derail negotiations: threaten to cut off all support. But is it more likely there will be a drawn out period of arguing about diplomacy that will be used to try resuscitating Ukraine for more fighting? Not sure. We’ll see.


9 posted on 09/21/2023 4:18:51 AM PDT by Palmetto State Conservative
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To: tennmountainman

[a commitment from Congress to approve another $24.9 billion]

Good gosh


10 posted on 09/21/2023 4:19:46 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: exPBRrat

[...we deserve our come-uppance.]

Should be the politicians that keep making it happen.


11 posted on 09/21/2023 4:21:05 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Because the military industrial complex has no interest in the US border.


12 posted on 09/21/2023 4:22:11 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: FarCenter

To hell with Ukraine.


13 posted on 09/21/2023 4:32:54 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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To: nonliberal

yep


14 posted on 09/21/2023 4:34:48 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Phoenix8
Rand Paul is correct.

This is a intentional destruction of our nation into financial collapse and total chaos so they can take power forever. Still More Dem_Insanity!

Saul Alinsky's Cloward Piven method

15 posted on 09/21/2023 4:38:19 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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The House, where all money bills must originate, is struggling
over a continuing resolution to keep OUR govt funded.

The $24.9 billion for Ukraine is not in any proposed CR......so far.

Yet Biden demands Ukraine be handed
<><> $13.1 billion tax dollars for military assistance;
<><>$8.5 billion for “humanitarian aid” (to finance Mrs Zelensky’s shopping trips to Paris);
<><> plus $2.3 billion to the World Bank for an idiotic scheme to pressure other donors.

No word on how much gets deposited offshore for the Bidens and the corrupt Zelensky crew.


16 posted on 09/21/2023 4:41:07 AM PDT by Liz ( 2024 Dems will have the same guy with the same team around him, just older.)
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To: FarCenter

He just went to ask for more money and stuff. With 0 oversight. Quit giving it to him. He will drain what’s left of the bank accounts and move somewhere else.


17 posted on 09/21/2023 4:45:07 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: FarCenter

18 posted on 09/21/2023 4:48:22 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Phoenix8

The money that’s gone to defend Ukraine is chicken scratch compared to what being wasted (stolen from) COVID and Green Energy boondoggles alone. Then let’s get into Medicaid, and SS disability fraud, etc., etc.


19 posted on 09/21/2023 5:00:29 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
The money that’s gone to defend Ukraine is chicken scratch compared to what being wasted (stolen from) COVID and Green Energy boondoggles alone. Then let’s get into Medicaid, and SS disability fraud, etc., etc.

blah blah blah

20 posted on 09/21/2023 5:10:14 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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