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Judge appears to reject Trump bid to talk classified info at Mar-a-Lago
The Washington Post ^ | September 13, 2023 | Devlin Barrett

Posted on 09/13/2023 11:47:01 AM PDT by Reno89519

After he was charged in June with mishandling national security papers, former president Donald Trump asked to be allowed to discuss classified evidence in the case right where he allegedly kept the documents: Mar-a-Lago, his Florida home and private club.

On Wednesday, the federal judge overseeing the case appears to have told him no.

U.S. District Court Judge Aileen M. Cannon issued a 16-page protective order granting prosecutors’ request for a set of rules about how classified information and documents should be handled in the case — rules that stick to the general practice of federal courts.

Government lawyers had fought Trump’s request to be allowed to discuss classified information at Mar-a-Lago. And while Cannon’s ruling doesn’t explicitly reject it, she sided with the government and spelled out a set of procedures that are unlikely to allow the creation of a sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIF, at the lavish estate in Palm Beach.

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Federal courts have a complicated series of procedures for handling cases involving classified information, including the appointment of a classified information security officer, who ... [Who] Cannon ordered, “shall establish procedures to assure a SCIF is accessible during business hours to the defense, and at other times upon reasonable request as approved by the CISO in consultation with the Court and United States Marshals Service.”

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Her ruling says Trump’s lawyers “possess at least interim security clearances,” ...

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Her order says Trump’s lawyers can share classified information with the former president unless prosecutors tell his legal team “when providing the information that it will be moving the Court for an order to prohibit the classified information from being disclosed to Defendant." That instruction gives prosecutors the option of asking that some evidence be kept off limits for Trump.

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aileencannon; cannon; maralago; smith; trump
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No surprise that Judge Cannon has placed some limits on the disclosure of the alleged classified materials. Sounds like he has access necessary for his case but not beyond. I'm sure this is not over.
1 posted on 09/13/2023 11:47:01 AM PDT by Reno89519
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To: Reno89519

Have they sorted out and returned the non-classified items to Trump yet? And is the list classified or does he and lawyers now know what they have seized?


2 posted on 09/13/2023 11:48:49 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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To: Reno89519

Cannon seems to be a good egg. This ruling follows standard procedure, so it’s hard to see any bias in it.


3 posted on 09/13/2023 11:49:15 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Reno89519

“rules that stick to the general practice of federal courts”

Does anyone really believe this judge sticks to any rules that she doesn’t first bend and twist into a complete perversion of justice?


5 posted on 09/13/2023 12:03:48 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: JoSixChip

Be fair and honest. I have generally defended Trump against persecution.


6 posted on 09/13/2023 12:05:00 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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“That instruction gives prosecutors the option of asking that some evidence be kept off limits for Trump.”

If you are not allowed to see the evidence used against you, it’s a kangaroo court.


8 posted on 09/13/2023 12:11:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Fido969

Is it public knowledge yet just what the documents seized were about - topic-wise??? I have always suspicioned they had to do the the fake Russia collusion conspiracy against Trump. The Comey, et al, attempt to overthrow the Trump government.


9 posted on 09/13/2023 12:14:06 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Boogieman

But they have to take each to the judge. So as long as she remains honest broker, it should follow normal court procedure.


11 posted on 09/13/2023 12:18:55 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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To: Reno89519; JoSixChip

Your recent remark that you’ve “moved on from Trump” doesn’t necessarily communicate sincerity — sincerity in the MAGA cause that essentially lies at the heart of the Constitutional liberties we deeply cherish. And the expressed concern for Trump’s Constitutional Rights seems obligatory — not reading your mind of course, but the totality of your posts and remarks give the antagonistic impression that a few FRiends have pointed out.


12 posted on 09/13/2023 12:31:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Reno89519

Nonsense. If they want to use it as evidence, the defendant must be allowed to see it. That’s his right. One does not need to ask permission from a judge to exercise one’s right.

If one does need to ask permission, then your rights are already being infringed.


13 posted on 09/13/2023 12:33:16 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Gene Eric

Well, some of us can multitask and have opinions on a variety of topics. If you are gung-ho support for Trump on every possible topic, that is your choice but recognize and appreciate that most thinking people think and judge topic-by-topic. Put down the Kool-Aid.


14 posted on 09/13/2023 12:34:40 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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To: P-Marlowe

He declassified it all. This judge has prejudged the entire case.


15 posted on 09/13/2023 12:36:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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That instruction gives prosecutors the option of asking that some evidence be kept off limits for Trump.

Isn’t this one of the ways they framed Manafort. Charged him with crimes and the procedures/sources in getting the evidence was classified, neither he nor his attorney’s had clearances, so they couldn’t challenge any of the “evidence”.


16 posted on 09/13/2023 12:40:05 PM PDT by qaz123
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>> If you are gung-ho support for Trump on every possible topic

Not every possible topic concerns Trump, so that condition is definitively false creating a dilemma for those “thinking people” that apparently don’t drink Kool-Aid.

FRegards :)


17 posted on 09/13/2023 12:41:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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radaronline.com
By:Connor Surmonte
Feb. 2 2023

REVEALED: Hunter connected to his father’s mishandling of classified documents
<><>via Hunter’s Business Partner Eric Schwerin
<><>1,850 Boxes Of Sensitive Obama/Biden Transition Papers
<><>Includes Obama presidential papers id’ed as Potential Classified Docs

Hunter Biden’s business partner once handled upwards of 1,850 boxes of sensitive “Obama-Biden transition papers” that allegedly included classified documents from Joe Biden’s time as vice president, RadarOnline.com has learned.

In the latest development to come as Hunter is already tied to his father’s mishandling of classified documents, new evidence suggests the first son is connected to the ongoing scandal more than previously believed

According to Daily Mail, Hunter’s Rosemont Seneca business partner Eric Schwerin was tasked with moving 1,850 boxes of archives from then-Vice President Biden’s Washington, D.C. office to the University of Delaware in 2010.

Although the majority of the documents were from Biden’s time as a Delaware senator, nearly 2,000 boxes also reportedly contained sensitive papers from the Obama-Biden team’s transition into the White House one year earlier.

According to an email found on Hunter’s abandoned laptop dated March 2010, then-Vice President Biden’s deputy counsel Katherine Oyama messaged Schwerin to inform some of the documents sent to the University of Delaware “appears to include Obama-Biden transition papers, which the vice president likely does not own.”

Oyama then reportedly referenced “the University’s duty to comply with…classified information procedures,” suggesting some of the documents handed off to the University of Delaware possibly contained classified material.

Shortly after receiving Oyama’s warning, Schwerin emailed Hunter to keep him “in the loop.”

“FYI – if you want to be in the loop,” Schwerin wrote. “I sent to Mel who is going to talk to your Dad about this and decide who should work on it between him and Jamie.”


18 posted on 09/13/2023 12:46:26 PM PDT by Liz ( 2024 Dems will have the same guy with the same team around him, just older.)
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To: Reno89519

Immediate appeal??? I sure hope so! This shiite has got to stop!!!


19 posted on 09/13/2023 1:47:23 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Vivek for VP!!!!)
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To: Reno89519

This whole episode is orchestrated legal purgatory. It is shameful, especially in light of all the classified documents Senator Biden and Vice President Biden had illegally.


20 posted on 09/13/2023 1:54:12 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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