When do the bad points outweigh the good, for both of them?
When their bad points start weighing as much as their Democratic opponents' bad points.
>> When do the bad points outweigh the good, for both of them?
Evaluate their results, not their words. (True of anyone, actually.)
The order of the two individuals involved here was done alphabetically by last name:
When Musk gets Americans back to the Moon again with a Staging Base to get American Humans on to Mars and far sooner and for way less money than nasa could ever dream of doing.
When President Donald J. Trump is returned to the task of rebuilding America again by running things like a Business that has a balanced checkbook, gets these jacka$$e$ trying to destroy America and the World back under control, finally gets the Border Fence completed and actually has a Secure Border around America, putting America back at the top of the Petroleum Production, Reserves, prices lowered again for We the People, has the rest of the World BUYING AMERICAN PETROLEUM, drains the swamp/deep state scumbags and fixes AGAIN all the things that have been destroyed by the demonratcommieblmantifaterrorscumfeminazipedophilegoatrapers in the last few years.
I will say that Musk has the easiest of the two lists IMO.