Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a press conference on the dismissal of 9th Judicial Circuit Florida prosecutor Monique Worrell in Tallahassee, Fla., on Aug. 9, 2023. (Ron DeSantis/Screenshot via The Epoch Times)
Posted on 09/09/2023 9:37:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Former President Donald Trump responded to questions about why he did not terminate the employment of former National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director Anthony Fauci amid the early onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.
During an interview with radio host Hugh Hewitt, President Trump was asked about Dr. Fauci, who had been on the Trump pandemic response force, in 2020. "First of all, you’re not allowed," the former president said when asked why he didn't fire him, which Mr. Hewitt said was the "biggest knock" on his presidency.
"No, no, no, Dr. Fauci was there. First of all, he’s civil service, and you’re not allowed to fire him. But forget that because I don’t necessarily go by everything … but Dr. Fauci would tell me things, and I wouldn’t do them in many cases. But also, he wasn’t a big player in my administration," President Trump said. "Dr. Fauci became a big player in the administration of Biden. He’s a very big player in Biden’s administration."
The former president has received some criticism—namely from Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis—for not firing Dr. Fauci, who ultimately became a controversial figure during the pandemic for his often dire predictions about the course of the virus. The former public health official also often recommended people wear masks, get the vaccines, and defended COVID-19-related lockdowns and stay-at-home orders.
In response to President Trump's comments this week, Mr. DeSantis dismissed the former president's arguments that he couldn't fire him. He said that President Trump's comment differs from the ones he gave about Dr. Fauci in the past.
"It's important to point out for a long time that was not his excuse," Mr. DeSantis told the Rubin Report on Wednesday. "His excuse had been that if you fired Fauci, both the Democrats and the media would have pitched a fit, which, of course, is 100 percent true."
"But that's the price of leadership. You got to stand up and do what's right," the governor continued to say. "Clearly, he could have been fired from the White House Task Force. There was no obligation to run him out at press conference after press conference, have him doing media interviews."
During the pandemic, Mr. DeSantis grew a national profile for ending COVID-19 lockdowns early and reopening businesses while also backing laws that would prevent vaccine or mask mandates, or any new lockdowns. However, like other governors around the United States, Mr. DeSantis in March 2020 ordered a statewide lockdown due to the virus before he rescinded it several months later.
"During the height of the COVID stuff in 2020, Fauci would do local hits in Florida media attacking me for having schools open and some of these other stuff," he told the Rubin Report. "So, there was no obligation to do that. I think you could have also fired him from NIH because he had basically committed misconduct with the gain of function [research]."
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a press conference on the dismissal of 9th Judicial Circuit Florida prosecutor Monique Worrell in Tallahassee, Fla., on Aug. 9, 2023. (Ron DeSantis/Screenshot via The Epoch Times)
But President Trump said that Mr. DeSantis "shut down Florida," and the state "was tight as a drum." He added: "He had vax lines. He was vaxxing everything. Now, he talks about the vaccinations this and that."
"And let me tell you the other thing. I will send you, after this conversation, five articles about how much he loves Dr. Fauci," he continued. "'I do what Dr. Fauci says. This is Ron DeSantimonious. I do what Dr. Fauci says.' That’s what he says. And I’ve got the articles here. But he doesn’t like to go back."
The spat over Dr. Fauci, who stepped down from his federal government positions in late 2022, comes as some hospitals, schools, and businesses have reinstated mask mandates. In a Thursday news conference, the Florida governor announced that there won't be any new mandates in his state, reiterating a prior stance he has taken.
The former president added: "To every covid tyrant who wants to take away our freedom, hear these words: we will not comply, so don't even think about it. We will not shut down our schools; we will not accept your lockdowns; we will not abide by your mask mandates; and we will not tolerate your vaccine mandates.
“Even today, parts of our country are forcing children to wear masks in the classroom,” Mr. DeSantis told the news conference. “Those mandates are [dead on arrival’ in Florida, and we will protect parents and children from this perpetual COVID hysteria.”
As for President Trump, he released a video several days ago saying that Americans should "not comply" with any lockdowns, mandates, or other COVID-19 rules.
"The left-wing lunatics are trying very hard to bring back COVID lockdowns and mandates with all of their sudden fearmongering about the new variants that are coming," he said. "Gee whiz, you know what else is coming? An election."
The former president continued: "To every COVID tyrant who wants to take away our freedom, hear these words: we will not comply, so don't even think about it. We will not shut down our schools; we will not accept your lockdowns; we will not abide by your mask mandates; and we will not tolerate your vaccine mandates.
Which is different from the reality we all saw how? Even with Dr. Death it happened exactly like you said.
“Quit your whining. You spew BS and then tell people they can’t call you on it? You want to censor people who don’t agree with you? This isn’t Nazi Germany. I’m not threatening you, calling you names, harassing you. I’m responding to comments you make, as you have responded to mine.”
Kill the messenger huh? First you tell him to quit his whining, same as censoring, then you say he wants to censor. What about the facts that Reno posts? Your aganda is showing.
Fine. Then how about he just says “I was wrong”. Just freaking once.
They BOTH were wrong and are lying about their records.
Covid was run by the media. Neither Trump nor DeSantis stood a chance against the media.
There are other issues, besides covid, to consider in this election. I’m voting for Trump because we can NOT let the Deep state and law fare get away with persecuting Trump. I don’t think anything can change my mind.
Even if one supports and likes the former president, making complicated excuses for him is based on emoional criteria. He is human and makes mistakes. He needs to admit it; if not, that is typical politician talk.
“Fine. Then how about he just says “I was wrong”. Just freaking once.”
Right to the point. Thanks.
Thank you so much.
For a minute there, I thought I was on the DemocRAT Party’s web page.
Your comment seems to miss the point. The reality is that Trump could not have fired Fauci without getting tied up in an approximately 3 year process. That’s not an excuse; it’s a reality. What Trump could do he did. He publicly said That Trump did not always agree w/Fauci and he sidelined Fauci, brought in Trump’s own people on the task force.
Excuse ≠ Explanation of the law & the procedures so that people unaware of the facts are not confused.
If you come with your mind made up you will never learn anything and you will be so insufferable no one will learn anything from you.
VP have the authority with which they were delegated. Trump put Pence in charge of the task force.
Nope. DeSantis has built an entire campaign on his handling of COVID in “the free state of Florida” and it’s a lie.
Ronny was effusive in his praise of Fauci and a reliable proponent of every Fauci recommendation from business, spring break and school closures, tightly controlled reopenings, mandatory isolation for visitors to the state, masks including for children, social distancing, testing and strongly pushed vaccines because “they work”.
The only thing RDS wanted but didn’t get was a ban on national travel.
Keep in mind, seven states run by Republican governors said “no” to the recommendations and Florida wasn’t one of them.
I don’t fault RDS for the decisions he made, I fault him for lying about them.
If RDS has to run on this astonishing rewrite of his COVID leadership, IMO it is evidence of how little he has to offer.
Outside of an urge to gallop and a craving for oats, same here.
Fauci was appointed Director of NIAID under Reagan in 1984 --- a position he held until the end of 2022.
No one dug up Fauci’s HIV experiments till FJB came to the WH. I collected them all, Minority kids. In special institutes.
Fauci Ran Grotesque AIDS “Vaccine” Experiments on MINORITY Children in the 90’s, Causing ORGAN FAILURE, DEFORMITIES, BRAIN DAMAGE
https://www.libertyplanets.com/articles/fauci-ran-grotesque-aids-vaccine-experiments-on-minority-children-in-the-90s-causing-organ-failure-deformities-brain-damage/
Testing on Orphan Children
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/exclusive-forgotten-monument-dead-orphans-faucis-torturous-deadly-aids-testing-located-new-york-state-heart-breaking-photos/
FAUCI AUTHORIZED AIDS VAC EXPERIMENTS ON MENTALLY DISABLED KIDS & FOSTER KIDS
https://360newslasvegas.com/fauci-authorized-aids-vac-experiments-on-mentally-disabled-kids-foster-kids
good old Hatch ran an inquiry see the link below
In 2005, the AIDS research division under Fauci’s agency was also required to reinstate a whistleblower, Dr. Jonathan Fishbein, its chief of ethics and regulatory compliance, after he been wrongly fired in retaliation for raising safety concerns in Fauci’s agency’s research. Link is dead. Found this 1 https://lobbyistsforcitizens.com/2021/10/28/anthony-fauci-belongs-in-prison/ Sources used: Jon Solomon report, U.S. congressional investigation of Foster kids used for Aid research.
They’re still testing on orphan kids apparently- Dr. Davey Crocko has been covering this https://www.bitchute.com/channel/ZunifmFMmbyU/
The House That AIDS Built
https://www.altheal.org/toxicity/house.htm
https://ahrp.org/1955-1970-saul-krugman-md-conducted-despicable-medical-experiments-at-willowbrook/
1955–1970: Saul Krugman, MD, conducted despicable medical experiments at Willowbrook
https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/dr-fauci-and-the-nihs-history-in-experimenting-on-foster-children-and-using-aborted-fetal-tissue-to-develop-an-hiv-vaccine/
HPV Vaccine Risks Include Genocide
https://medicalveritas.org/hpv-vaccine-risks-include-genocide/
Anthony Fauci’s Wife: Christine Grady – Hidden Face of the Vaccine Trials?
https://www.expandingawarenessrelations.com/tag/christine-fauci/
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/chd-tv-mary-polly-fauci-experiments-orphans/
https://conservativedailypost.com/over-200-children-died-after-faucis-evil-aids-orphan-research/
Guinea Pig Kids https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/guinea-pig-kids-faucis-legacy-of-cruel-experiments-on-children-dead-babies-and-mass-graves/
2nd Source https://www.democracynow.org/2004/12/22/guinea_pig_kids_how_new_york
while I’ve not been able to tie this to Fauci it needs more digging
More children there is a link in the article where Geraldo did a story on it https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2020/06/12/willowbrook-scandal-hepatitis-experiments-hideous-truths-of-testing-vaccines-on-humans/?sh=1c659b98279c
This is the Beagle Puppy experiments https://beckernews.com/fauci-under-fire-for-cruel-experiments-on-sick-puppies-dogs-heads-locked-in-cages-with-flesh-eating-parasites-for-science-42657/
Investigation Reveals Damning Info On Dr. Fauci Torturing ORPHAN BABIES And CHILDREN In His AIDS Drug Experiments
NEWS Fauci’s NIH Division Paid $205K For Researchers To Study T Monkeys https://truthpress.news/news/faucis-nih-division-paid-205k-for-researchers-to-study-transgender-monkeys/
Are you familiar with the 50’s? era “Special Cancer Virus Program”? Scientists took monkey viruses, juiced them up & injected them into humans as part of a vaccine experiment. This is where RSV originated, & many of our modern day viruses like MERS were borne from these types of programs. An anon researcher who has dug into the archives (much of which has been scrubbed) was just on a YT livestream presenting his findings & it was absolutely riveting.
Starts at 21:00ish: https://youtu.be/A75vnk8M4IQ
Yell at someone who will hear you.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/vaxx-promoters-resemble-timeshare
PATENT HORRORS
https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/12/08/covid-19-patent-horrors/
Fauci’s dead babies
https://rumble.com/vq2pv8-faucis-dead-babies-and-mass-graves-from-the-past.html
NIH under investigation for $1.2M purchase of beagles for ‘hideous’ experiments: PETA VP
https://www.foxnews.com/media/national-institutes-health-beagles-experiments-peta
The National Institutes of Health spent $1.2 million buying Beagle puppies for experimentation from a Virginia-based puppy breeding mill currently under federal investigation for animal cruelty.
https://thepostmillennial.com/1-2-million-spent-by-nih-to-buy-beagle-puppies-for-medical-experimentation?utm_source=PMI%20Ecquire%20Donors&utm_medium=deployer&utm_campaign=American%20News%20Daily&utm_term=395
NIH Files Federal Investigation into Primate Facility
https://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/nih-files-federal-investigation-into-primate-facility/
National Institutes of Health investigate AZ primate research lab over animal welfare concerns
https://www.knau.org/knau-and-arizona-news/2021-12-21/national-institutes-of-health-investigate-az-primate-research-lab-over-animal-welfare-concerns
masks
http://www.wordsalad.info/tag-md-coronavirusfraud.md
Freedom and Coercion
Why COVID-19 Clinical Trials Cannot Be Trusted
https://breggin.com/why-covid-19-clinical-trials-cannot-be-trusted/
COVID Conspiracy Laid Bare by Dr. Anthony Fauci’s email Correspondence
https://ahrp.org/covid-conspiracy-laid-bare-by-dr-anthony-faucis-email-correspondence/
RFK, JR. DISCUSSES THE REAL ANTHONY FAUCI
https://thehighwire.com/videos/rfk-jr-discusses-the-real-anthony-fauci/
Top 12 Takeaways From the Joe Rogan and Dr. Robert Malone Interview
https://www.jewworldorder.org/top-12-takeaways-from-the-joe-rogan-and-dr-robert-malone-interview/
pfzer
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-06-pfizer-conducts-covid-vaccine-trials-on-orphans.html
I lived in NYC for 20 years during Trump’s prime. He’s incapable of admitting fault. He can’t do it. All the media and all the yes-men he hired only further insulated him from the truth. He’s an ivy-league, big-city entitled rich kid who’s never been wrong a day in his life. It will never change.
STOP USING THE GENERIC PEOPLE NOW ASSOCIATE A MEDICINE WITH HORSE DEWORMER. Stromectol IS Ivermectin, PLAQUENIL IS Hydroxychloroquine the highest RA/Lupus prescribed drug.. Another antiparasitic that wasn’t tried Flagyl, usually used for Diverticulitis. It and Stromectol.
Pureblood, no jabs, no C-Flu.
How many states is desanctomonious winning in now? Oh thats right, exactly zero. Hell he’s losing his home state of Florida to Trump by like 40 points! This loser couldn’t get elected dog catcher after they way he stabbed us in the back. No more bush politicians!
And how many votes have been cast? Oh, that’s right, NONE.
His whole administration was full of his enemies then. Lol. You are a laugh riot.
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