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Trump hosts $100,000-per-person Bedminster fundraiser to help Giuliani pay legal bills
Associated Press ^ | September 8, 2023

Posted on 09/07/2023 9:51:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: joesbucks

Very funny. Exactly the liberal line.

One example is 94 percent of the electorate suddenly showing up to “vote” in 2020 when the prior average for a century was 45 percent.

Another is the active suppression of any questioning of what happened during the first “election week” in US history.

Yet another is the unconstitutional (per state constitutions) alteration of state election laws by judicial fiat.

That’s the short list. Others will no doubt provide more exhaustive lists; and if you search this website (a skill I hope you’ve acquired after over two decades here), even more evidence will be manifest.


81 posted on 09/09/2023 12:06:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: joesbucks
Trump lost. Period. Would it have been better if he hadn’t? But he lost.

He didn't lose the real vote. He lost the fake vote, and our side were just collaborators with the Democrats stealing that election in the swing states.

If you think that bag of sh*t in human form actually won 12 million more votes than Barack Obama, you are naive.

82 posted on 09/11/2023 6:57:15 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: joesbucks
Give me the proof and I’m on your side. So far we’ve heard a lot of theories and accusations. But solid proof seems to be lacking.

Solid proof? Have you *NOT* been reading Free Republic for the last few years? I can't tell you how many articles i've read detailing massive evidence of election fraud and more proof than any sane man would want to look at.

And yet you missed it somehow?

83 posted on 09/11/2023 7:03:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/21/giuliani-no-evidence-voter-fraud-arizona-jan-6-commitee

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3531342-rusty-bowers-says-giuliani-told-him-weve-got-lots-of-theories-we-just-dont-have-the-evidence/amp/

Rudy has recently claimed to have scientific evidence on his radio show, but that evidence seems to lack detail. probably about as conclusive as Lindell’s. Oh, and do we forget he said for purposes of the Freeman trial, his claims were false?

And of course Jenna Ellis admitted: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis-disciplined-after-admitting-to-election-falsehoods-a13b3572

Now there are the outside theorists, D’Souza’s Mules and such. But so far no one seems to be including those theories as part of their evidence in court. Why?

84 posted on 09/11/2023 7:42:27 AM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: DiogenesLamp
I’m hip just had a summer election that had more turnout than expected. 38%. The 2020 primary had slightly less than 23%. Turnouts are about motivation. People were motivated about getting Trump out.

You’ll also notice the winners of the down ballot contests aren’t claiming fraud.

85 posted on 09/11/2023 7:55:20 AM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks
The Guardian and the Hill?

No. Just no.

Again, did you miss all the articles posted on Free Republic about the evidence of election fraud?

Now there are the outside theorists, D’Souza’s Mules and such. But so far no one seems to be including those theories as part of their evidence in court. Why?

Your statement is more evidence that you didn't bother to keep up with this topic over the last three years.

The Courts simply don't care about corrupt elections. Witness the trouble's Kari Lake has had trying to get the court to notice the massive corruption that occurred during her election in 2022.

The courts don't care about evidence. They haven't even bothered to address the issue of evidence. They keep tossing out these cases on the basis of "standing" and "latches."

The courts are garbage and have been for a long time. I would think most conservatives would be aware of how dysfunctional our court system is right now.

86 posted on 09/11/2023 9:44:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: joesbucks
You’ll also notice the winners of the down ballot contests aren’t claiming fraud.

This was covered in the various articles appearing on Free Republic for the last few years. Again, your statement is more evidence that you didn't bother to pay attention to this issue for the last three years.

There were an overwhelming number of ballots in which no down ballot candidates were voted for. Only Joe Biden.

That is fraud on the face of it.

And while we are at it, perhaps you can explain to me how down ballot candidates can win the election but the top Republican candidates for Senate, Govenor and the Presidency cannot?

What sort of Republicans split their votes like that?

87 posted on 09/11/2023 9:50:28 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
The courts care about evidence. It needs submitted. And no, I didn’t miss all the articles on FR. Like Lindell’s symposium. That panned out. Like Rudy’s plea in the Freeman case. Like Ellis in her law license revocation.

As for cited entities, just because you don’t like them doesn’t make them incorrect.

As for Mules, the people doing this would have to: Obtain a falsified ballot with a unique bar code, printed on special paper, and a special envelope. If the claim is that you’ve somehow obtained 400,000 original ballots without the elections officials or voters knowing, how precisely did you do this? “2) You need to successfully forge the voter’s signature. 3) You need to deposit the envelope and have it validated by a local official. That just part of the holes in that video.

Believe what you may, but understand no one has submitted the necessary smoking guns. And thus far, no one is using the evidence from Mules or other theories. Although hold on. Rudy has new scientific evidence. Thermostats? Satellites? Candy that resemble flash drives?

88 posted on 09/11/2023 10:04:26 AM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: DiogenesLamp

There are always ballot where only the president receives votes. In my state, the top of the ticket always gets more votes than down ballot. Do you have those counts of how many were only Joe Biden? Were there any only Trump?


89 posted on 09/11/2023 10:07:34 AM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: Olog-hai
for disgraced former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani

disgraced? says who?

90 posted on 09/11/2023 10:08:23 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: joesbucks
The courts care about evidence.

There have been a multitude of lawsuits filed on this issue in various states. Can you name one in which the courts actually got to the evidence before dismissing it?

The courts don't care about evidence.

Even the Court in Arizona didn't care about Kari Lake's evidence.

And no, I didn’t miss all the articles on FR. Like Lindell’s symposium.

Why would you pick that as an example? That is one of the most trivial articles posted on Free Republic in the last few years. There have been dozens of articles of better significance than that, yet you pick that one to talk about?

As for cited entities, just because you don’t like them doesn’t make them incorrect.

I don't like them because they consistently lie and distort the the truth. I do not regard them as credible because they always try to manipulate the facts and argue under false premises.

As for Mules, the people doing this would have to:...

Not going to entertain your idea of what needs to happen. I haven't watched "Mules", but i've read enough about it to have some idea what it is about, and they named it "2000 Mules" because they thought that number represented the quantity of people they could easily prove were engaged in this behavior. If I recall, they were saying they have evidence demonstrating many times that number were engaging in this drop box ballot stuffing.

Believe what you may, but understand no one has submitted the necessary smoking guns.

There is no place in authority that will bother looking at a smoking gun. They don't care. They are fine with this corrupt result.

Not even the FBI cares about a smoking gun.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/08/31/michigan-voter-fraud-more-widespread-than-previously-realized-attorney-general-dana-nessel-and-fbi-burying-explosive-issue/

And here is another one.

https://patriots.win/p/17r9Dly53w/georgia-2020-should-have-been-to/c/

91 posted on 09/11/2023 10:50:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: joesbucks
There are always ballot where only the president receives votes. In my state, the top of the ticket always gets more votes than down ballot. Do you have those counts of how many were only Joe Biden?

I've ran across this information before. I read it, and moved on. I now wish I had been keeping track of all these articles, but I have apparently made the foolish assumption that other freepers cared about this issue as much as I do, and had read the articles too.

Clearly that is not the case.

92 posted on 09/11/2023 10:53:27 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Kari Lake didn’t have sufficient evidence. In many of the other cases, if they didn’t submit evidence, then there would be no evidence to evaluate and review. As both Rudy and Jenna admitted, they had theories. Not evidence. As for Michigan how many of those registrations submitted ballots?


93 posted on 09/11/2023 12:03:22 PM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: Olog-hai

Nice!!


94 posted on 09/11/2023 12:04:26 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: joesbucks; kiryandil
Kari Lake didn’t have sufficient evidence.

I disagree. The evidence is overwhelming to a NON CORRUPT Judge. There was a woman that testified to the Arizona Senate that all important officials in Arizona are controlled by the Sinola drug cartel. With that lying judge's actions in the Maricopa county case, I tend to believe this.

Here's what another judge had to say.

https://www.westernjournal.com/election-integrity-win-arizona-court-rules-states-unlawful-signature-matching-process/

And here is another thread on the topic.

Expert claims 25% of all 2020 Maricopa County mail-in-ballots have no signature match, meaning 420,987 ballots out of 1.9 million are fraudulent, invalid & illegal

Not evidence. As for Michigan how many of those registrations submitted ballots?

Because the clerk caught it, likely none of them, but the more important question is how many fake registrations got through the system?

Kiryandil might have the answer to that question. He's done great work keeping up with the election stats in each state.

95 posted on 09/11/2023 1:03:56 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

To Arizonia: The plaintiff’s have solid proof 420,987 signatures are illegal and they voted? And if they did, how did they vote? I frankly am glad the judge wants to hear more. Pulitzer isn’t exactly who I want as a truth expert.


96 posted on 09/11/2023 3:36:31 PM PDT by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: Responsibility2nd

So .... Trump needs people to keep quiet about crimes?


97 posted on 09/11/2023 3:39:55 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: firebrand

This site banned Rudy supporters for a time.


98 posted on 09/11/2023 3:48:20 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: blitz128

“There is little if any difference between the news desk and editorial board.”

That point deserves the Nobel Award for Essential Truth (assuming such a category would exist).

The lines between the two—hard news and editorial opinion—began blurring during Watergate. It’s been a race to the bottom ever since.


99 posted on 09/11/2023 4:00:51 PM PDT by aligncare ( Make America America Again…Trump 2024)
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