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In England, the death panel of socialized medicine appears again
American Thinker ^ | 09/05/2023 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 09/05/2023 10:18:19 AM PDT by Inkie

A British court has held that Britain’s National Health Service, which has long been the gold standard of socialized medicine, can stop treating a 19-year-old woman who is conscious and wants to live. This is the natural endpoint of the rationing that is inherent in socialized medicine.

Ostensibly, socialized medicine promises to give top-quality healthcare to everyone. And if you’re a national treasure like Stephen Hawking, you will get that type of care, because it looks really bad if the government lets a renowned physicist with a degenerative disease die because treating him sucks up too many government resources.

However, the reality of socialized medicine is that it revolves around rationing. The government has “X” dollars available for medical care, and it will allocate that money according to a political calculation that doesn’t necessarily involve actual healthcare. As Scott Atlas wrote in 2011, when the World Health Organization claimed America was a healthcare failure compared to other, socialized medicine nations, the devil was in the statistical details: In socialized medicine countries, you can see a doctor (although you may wait years to do so), but you won’t actually get medical care.

And speaking of those damned, lying statistics, another game that countries with socialized medicine play to prop up the appearance that they provide actual medical care is to lie about infant mortality data. The truth behind the claim that America lags in infant mortality compared to the world’s other, socialized-medicine countries is that different countries count “live births” differently. Countries other than America don’t count as live births those fragile infants that probably won’t survive. That way, it looks as if more of their infants survive after birth.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; england; healthcare

1 posted on 09/05/2023 10:18:19 AM PDT by Inkie
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To: Inkie
A British court has held that Britain’s National Health Service, which has long been held up as the gold standard of socialized medicine, can stop treating a 19-year-old woman who is conscious and wants to live.

Edited for honesty.

2 posted on 09/05/2023 10:22:46 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Inkie

Any third party payment system for medical care involves rationing.


3 posted on 09/05/2023 11:04:03 AM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: Inkie

The British National Health Service should be sanctioned by the next President of the United States.

Trump and Pence played nice when the NHS put others to death like that child Charlie Gard back then.

No More Mr. Nice Guy serious measures against the British Government of Death.

By the way a British court is deciding this matter if they decide death for the 19-year-old let the Judge be sanctioned like some Chinese Communist or Iranian or Russian or North Korean would by our government.


4 posted on 09/05/2023 11:12:09 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush

Would have to start with Canada. We had > 10,000 “Medically assisted” suicides last year.


5 posted on 09/05/2023 11:22:34 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Absolutely the English speaking “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance countries all distinguish themselves on so many fronts from COVID tyranny to a culture of death.

The so-called “Conservative” New Zealand politician David Seymour (”don’t be a *ickhead, get vaxxed”) also promotes a long list of reasons to end one’s own life.

He may be in the next government his ACT party running very well in polls right now.


6 posted on 09/05/2023 11:26:17 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Inkie
From 2008 and the UK...

Old people with dementia have a duty to die and should be pushed towards death, says Baroness Warnock

From 2006 and the UK, behind a paywall, but the headline says it all...

Doctors call premature babies ‘bed blockers’

7 posted on 09/05/2023 11:32:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: mewzilla
And from 2 years ago...

Secret NHS pandemic plan could have meant premature babies were denied care Confidential report sent to Government advisers before Covid crisis said decisions on life-saving treatment would depend on local resources

Let's hear it for socialized medicine!

8 posted on 09/05/2023 11:34:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Nextrush

“Absolutely the English speaking “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance countries all distinguish themselves on so many fronts from COVID tyranny to a culture of death.

It has been a real wake up call re the English speaking “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance countries all distinguish themselves on so many fronts from COVID tyranny to a culture of death.

Their interference with Trump’s first election was criminal and brazen.


9 posted on 09/05/2023 11:40:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Georgia just crystallized Trump’s caympaign with a copyright-free image winning him nomination!)agee)
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To: Nextrush

There is some flaw in the Anglosphere that their post-Christian elites are much more degenerate and depraved than in non Anglo-sphere countries.


10 posted on 09/05/2023 11:49:43 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Inkie

Yope, you medical care is too expensive!
Let us put you humanely asleep!


11 posted on 09/05/2023 11:56:29 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Inkie

btt


12 posted on 09/05/2023 1:38:34 PM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: Inkie

The Death Panel has spoken.


13 posted on 09/05/2023 2:03:12 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Inkie

As I understand it, if a baby takes a single breath, it counts as a live birth in the U.S. This not only skews the infant-mortality rate but also the life-expectancy statistics.


14 posted on 09/05/2023 4:22:06 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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