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To: Mariner

You were such a big mouth before, didn’t get your new instructions yet?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/17/russia-issues-list-demands-tensions-europe-ukraine-nato


99 posted on 09/02/2023 3:58:59 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

“Russia has put forward a highly contentious list of security guarantees it says it wants the west to agree to in order to lower tensions in Europe and defuse the crisis over Ukraine, including many elements that have already been ruled out.”

“Somehow you don’t know that Russia has demanded that nato must withdraw from every single former soviet block country.”

The only “former soviet block” countries that Russia has “demanded” that NATO vacate are the Baltics.

The remainder of the post 1997 countries were all Warsaw Pact.


101 posted on 09/02/2023 4:15:01 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Williams

“The Russian deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, said on Friday that there was no deadline for talks but that Russia wants to begin negotiations “without delays and without stalling”.

“We can go any place and any time, even tomorrow,” he said in animated remarks.

Asked whether he thought the requests were unreasonable, he said no. “This is not about us giving some kind of ultimatum, there is none. The thing is that the seriousness of our warning should not be underestimated,” he said.

Dmitri Trenin, the head of the Carnegie Moscow Center, wrote that Russia’s public release of its proposed agreements “may suggest that Moscow [rightly] considers their acceptance by west unlikely”.

“This logically means that [Russia] will have to assure its security single-handedly, most probably by mil-tech [military technical] means,” he wrote.”

You read that part of your source article, right?

Those are some “demands”. There’s no ultimatum, no “or else”.


102 posted on 09/02/2023 4:16:45 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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