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Diplomacy! Ukraine Tells Critics of Slow Counter Offensive to ‘Shut Up’
Breitbart ^ | 09/02/2023 | Oliver JJ. Lane

Posted on 09/02/2023 7:15:36 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

The slower the counteroffensive, the more the US taxpayer can be swindled.


41 posted on 09/03/2023 4:40:26 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: USA-FRANCE

Pedophilia

Is financing

The dnc - this war

Diversity fascist pc nazi commie crats


42 posted on 09/03/2023 4:45:00 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: MinorityRepublican

“America is too divided at this point and we have internal issues so we can’t do the job of being the World Cop right now.”

>>>>>>>>

That’s exactly what I was talking about. They forced us to concentrate on BS junk problems like trans-ideology, etc... in order to divide us, and deflect from their rapid expansionism in the world.

They are following the Boljevic rules to destroy an enemy by
“Divide and Conquer”. So yes, they divided America. We fell right into their trap, like clueless kids.

The question is this:
The world-police is now run by the Russia-China alliance.
They seem to have no problem at all doing this, and it makes them rich and powerful apparently!

God, I miss the Reagan years! America was united and unstoppable. Truly glorious times.


43 posted on 09/03/2023 4:47:06 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

There’s to much to cover. It would take a book.

Yes Russia annexed part of Ukraine, but that is because we’re taking over Ukraine, and they are claiming what is ethnic Russian (the majority in the annexed areas do NOT see the Russians as invaders and the nationalist Ukrainians as hero defenders.).

In the Soviet era, much of the industry was built in some of these areas, and historically this land at different times was part of Russia. Again, there is a back story that is mostly ignored in our one sided MSM.

And yes, the nationalist Ukrainians did ban the use of the Russian language, they did close Orthodox churches (still being done BTW), they did overthrow or remove Russian friendly political figures that had local popular support...

They speak Russian: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Ethnolingusitic_map_of_ukraine.png

They vote for the pro Russia candidate: http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/interactive/2014/02/world/ukraine-divided/media/ukraine_map_region_vote.jpg

And then we want to (((pretend))) this is about sovereignty, democracy and human rights.

They once were Russian: https://youtu.be/0lHLwP6RUug?feature=shared

We invaded Iraq based on a lie: WMD: https://www.dw.com/en/the-iraq-war-in-the-beginning-was-the-lie/a-43301338

A lie, just like all this sovereignty, democracy, human rights babble today regards Ukraine is a lie. Ukraine is not a democracy, they are not sovereign if under our control any more than under Russian control, and they have a horrible human rights record.

In Iraq, we NEVER withdrew, that too is a lie (it was politically beneficial for Obama to help in his re-election). We simply reduced our presence to about 5,000+ men until recently when we cut it to a little over 3,000 not counting de facto mercenaries, local security, and OGA. We are an “occupation force” in the literal sense of the word. If you had a poll in Iraq you’d see that practically no one wants us there, that they view us as an occupation force, and if you make people do things that works against their own best self interest, if your rules and authority supercedes all local authority, with the use of force if necessary, then you indeed are an occupation force (do what I say, or I’ll hurt you).

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/us-military-presence-in-iraq-in-spotlight/1696285# The Turks will publish this because they are actively working against us in Iraq despite being our NATO “ally.” Most US media will be silent on this. Because our watchdog and free media which is owned by the same people who wanted this war in Ukraine, because Biden is a Democrat, the Euros are on board (they too stand to benefit), the Western non propagandist media is in total lockstep. The only difference between Iraq and Ukraine is that today the Euros are on board with us, because they too have economic interests at stake, and today you have all the Western media lockstep. Germany, France, whose state run media were 100% anti Iraq war, today are 100% with us. But ironically Iraq had more justification than Ukraine. There you really did have human rights abuses, a mad man, violations of no fly and no wheel zones (armistice of 1991), long range missiles, violation of the free movement of inspectors... But in Ukraine we literally have “nothing,” except make belief, rhetoric, pretend arguments that are all hiding a true entirely economic motivation.

Frame this war in the Ukraine the way it most likely is: our multinational corporations and oligarchs which lead them and influence government disproportionately want Ukraine in the EU and NATO. We decided that we’re going to peel Ukraine from Russia. But this has serious security implications for Russia, so for them it’s not just an economic motivation as it is for us. The Russians are willing to pay a lot and for a long time for this. Even if Putin leaves, whoever comes in next would be confronted with the same security concern and will likely not change course. This war wasn’t caused by some imperialistic motivation or Soviet nostalgia, the mind of a madman as we portray it, rather hard cold facts and numbers and a security establishment in Russia that is screaming “danger.”

Finally, if we’re going to take over Ukraine in our usual MO, then Russia is going to take those parts where they can reasonably lay claim on and easily take and hold (those places that are majority ethnic Russian, once were Russia, and where Russia helped pay/build up in the Soviet era.).

But I got it. If we invade it’s to liberate: it was all about Iraqi “freedom,” right?” We shoot freedom missiles and drop democracy bombs and when we go to war (for economic reasons) it’s always moral and people don’t die, get crippled, cities and infrastructure isn’t damaged... but those evil Russians.


44 posted on 09/04/2023 12:32:50 AM PDT by Red6
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