Posted on 08/30/2023 2:28:28 PM PDT by MeganC
—Stalin re-opened Orthodox churches while Zelensky is banning them.”
RIGHT/s
What was Stalin’s policy toward religion?
From 1928 until World War II, when some restrictions were relaxed, the totalitarian dictator shuttered churches, synagogues and mosques and ordered the killing and imprisonment of thousands of religious leaders in an effort to eliminate even the concept of God.
“Ukrainians were Soviets also (or Nazis).”
No.
Ukrainians are Ukrainians. Conquered at times but still Ukrainians.
“I don’t care which side wins the war, as long as it’s not Russia”
Lovin’ that comment!
Expose the RUSSIAN political corruption in Ukraine. And then end the war.
There, fixed it.
“In Moscow, they teach many languages. Russian to those that want to study the past, English and Hebrew to those that want to leave, and Chinese to those that want to stay.”
You don’t even know what that means. Pathetic.
But you insist on posting in these threads that are not about your country.
Perhaps you should look up the word “focus” to see what you’re missing.
My tax-dollars and possibly fellow countrymen are involved, so I have a vested interest in complaining about it.
Perhaps you should look up the word “focus” to see what you’re missing.
I'm focused on restoring my country to Legacy Americans, and not to globalist scumbags who seek to destroy us all.
Ethnic cleansing
Yes, Russia has been ethnically cleaning its neighboring countries for hundreds of years. In particular now they are importing Russian nationals to replace the native Ukrainian population of Mariupol and other occupied Ukrainian cities. It’s the old Stalinist Genocide playbook and KGB Vlad knows it well.
That article is full of lies and misrepresentations.
Exactly ! That’s what this reminds me of. Confederate statue vandalism and ISIS destruction of museums etc.
“Stalin was better than the current Ukraine pig government”
Stalin was responsible for the murders of tens of millions - of his own citizens.
You’re entitled to your own point of view but some opinions just make you look like a moron. Stalin invaded Finland and Poland. Has Zelensky done that? Stalin closed the churches before he cynically opened them to cheerlead for the war effort. Then he closed them again. Zelensky wants Ukrainian churches to not be servants of Russia. Do you doubt for a second that we would close every mosque in the country that sided with a Muslim invader and our very existence as a nation was threatened? Study our history. There’s a reason why the Anglican Church in the colonies became the “Protestant Episcopal Church” in the wake of the American Revolution.
“LANGUAGE IS MOST IMPORTANT:
Language expresses and reinforces culture AND influences the personal identity of those living within the culture and creates boundaries of their behavior.”
Are you from the Parti Quebecois ?
“...importing Russian nationals to replace the native Ukrainian population...”
They are despicable !
Imagine importing foreigners to displace the Heritage population of a country... oh, ... wait..
“Ukrainians were Soviets also (or Nazis).”
No.
Ukrainians are Ukrainians. Conquered at times but still Ukrainians.
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So, Mom, was Nikita Krushchev Soviet or was he Ukrainian?
Please understand that UMCRevMom@aol.com is a deep thinker. She commented for us all:
"The ‘PUTIN-Biden-Clinton-Obama’ cartel did used Ukraine as a FRONT to stage their money-laundering by using Russian agents embedded BY PUTIN in the Ukraine government: Ukrainian deep-state!So you see Putin is in charge of Russia, the deep state in Ukraine (per the 20 August 2023 testimony), the United States via the Biden administration and to include other Democrats such as Obama and Clinton, and of course our very own deep state....President Zelensky is still trying to remove Ukraine CORRUPT “deep state created by Putin!”
Source: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4176363/posts?page=52#52
Trust but verify. Check the link for a thread of her very own.
With such an insight into the world, she could not possibly be a member of rather limited Parti Québécois. Ce n'est pas possible.
Soon Ukrainian will be spoken only by a few people in the USA, Canada, western Europe, and maybe Israel.
“Stalin re-opened Orthodox churches”
I respectfully would request you seek out Russians that escaped the U.S.S.R or Russian Orthodox priests
Stalin revived the Russian Orthodox Church only to intensify patriotic support for the WWII war effort. Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and its clergy became one of the victims of Soviet authorities in immediately postwar.
Persecution of Christians began again in the late 1950s under Khrushchev. Anti-religious propaganda was increased. Agents of Soviet secret services were used to influence the World Council of Churches, World Peace Council, Christian Peace Conference, and the Rodina (”Motherland”) Society founded by the KGB in 1975.
People who were more highly educated or who occupied more important positions were subject to harsher harassment and punishment than those who were uneducated. Religious youth at colleges could sometimes be sent to psychiatric hospitals on grounds that only a person with a psychological disorder would still be religious after going through the whole anti-religious education.”
Mikhail Gorbachev began new political and social freedoms that resulted in many church buildings being returned to the church and restored by local congregations.
Sources state the total number of Christian victims under the Soviet regime has been estimated to range around 12 to 20 million with at least 106,300 Russian clergymen executed between 1937 and 1941.
Endnotes:
Dimitry V. Pospielovsky. A History of Soviet Atheism in Theory, and Practice, and the Believer, vol 1: A History of Marxist-Leninist Atheism and Soviet Anti-Religious Policies, St Martin’s Press, New York (1987) pg 114-115
”Estimates of the total number all Christian martyrs in the former Soviet Union are about 12 million.”, James M. Nelson, “Psychology, Religion, and Spirituality”, Springer, 2009, ISBN 0387875727, p. 427
”over 20 million were martyred in Soviet prison camps”, Todd M. Johnson, “Christian Martyrdom: A global demographic assessment“, p. 4 University of Notre Dame
Yakovlev, Alexander N. (2002). A Century of Violence in Soviet Russia. Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-10322-9.
No, you didn’t fix it. It is rather stunning that anyone on this forum can blindly ignore the US political corruption in Ukraine. As in not even acknowledge it.
Actually, actually important to catch up. I did and have corrected assigned Ukrainian corruption by Russian troll-farmers.
True, a few U.S. unscrupulous, corrupt politicians aka “The ‘PUTIN-Biden-Clinton-Obama’ cartel did use Ukraine as a FRONT to stage their money-laundering operations by use of Russian agents embedded into the Ukraine governmental positions by PUTIN: Ukrainian deep-state!
You don’t have to believe me. So you reject my statement, then do diligence requires your own research. The facts are there.
BTW, President Zelensky has become very successful in removing such CORRUPTION of this “deep state” created by Putin!”
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