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To: SeekAndFind

THIS: “No matter how outlandish and unconstitutional the charges are, no matter how utterly politicized the process is, a D.C. jury is going to convict Trump.”

It won’t matter that someday the Supreme Court may overturn that conviction. The presidency will be lost, and Pres. Biden will easily coast to re-election.

Think about it: This trial date isn’t to ensure that Trump is tied up for Super Tuesday; why tie him up for only one day? Haven’t the Democrats learned that the Republicans will rally around him?

OF COURSE THEY WILL.

That’s the Democrats’ plan. If it were MERELY that they wanted to tie him up, why not wait for just before the CONVENTION? They want to make sure he wins because they see the polls that say a convicted Trump would lose massive numbers of Republicans and even more Independents.

Trump’s explicit campaign message is “If I go to jail, America is lost. So elect me so I won’t go to jail.” But wouldn’t it make more sense to pick a nominee who can get elected and fix the broken justice system that would send Trump to jail?


7 posted on 08/29/2023 10:04:12 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus; All

If anyone beside Trump becomes the Republican nominee that is a clear sign that the people’s voice no longer matters. Only having Trump elected, someone the so called elites hate and don’t want, can show that the people have any power left in the system. Policy, at this point, is meaninglessness


13 posted on 08/29/2023 10:25:36 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: dangus

Choosing our candidate by estimates of electability or conviction in a show-trial simply gives the Dems veto power over our vote. You want that?


14 posted on 08/29/2023 10:30:49 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: dangus

“But wouldn’t it make more sense to pick a nominee who can get elected and fix the broken justice system that would send Trump to jail?”

It takes more than voter sense, it will require a good Republican.

Vivek - a bit too slick for my taste
Nikki - natural born question, too fond of the defense establishment
Christie - can’t see injustice before his very eyes
Pence - craven coward
DeSantis - flat personality so may not be electable
Scott - Senate level material


15 posted on 08/29/2023 10:33:10 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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To: dangus

“Trump’s explicit campaign message is “If I go to jail, America is lost. So elect me so I won’t go to jail.”

Trump would not explicitly campaign with that message.

“But wouldn’t it make more sense to pick a nominee who can get elected and fix the broken justice system that would send Trump to jail?”

And just who were you thinking could (1) get elected and (2) fix the system? I sincerely would like to know.


17 posted on 08/29/2023 10:36:04 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: dangus
Biden will easily coast to re-election.

This is going to happen no matter what, unless Trump is running against him and wins with a margin that even the most aggressive cheating cannot overcome.

But wouldn’t it make more sense to pick a nominee who can get elected and fix the broken justice system that would send Trump to jail?

Sadly, there is not such a nominee. They are all RINOs at best, Rat-lites at worst, and all of them are career Uniparty politicians, nothing more than spineless, utterly useless bureaucrats. Unlike Trump, who truly cares about the country and is not in it for the money. If there was a single leader among the Republicans who actually had a pair of balls, who supported Trump when he was in office and during the last election, he would have accomplished SO much, and still be President. Instead, these useless POSes sat back and let him fight all on his own, then after he got cheated every single one of them did an about-face and revealed themselves as the traitors they are. They only care about their income, pensions, and cozy benefits; as far as they are concerned, the country can burn. Which it is, very quickly.

When I saw what happened in the corrupt 2020 election, I said to my family that there will never be another conservative president, since the Rats have shown how to blatantly steal an election and not suffer any consequences. I also said we are doomed as a nation, sooner rather than later. Sadly, I still stand by those statements, unless Trump manages to come through.

20 posted on 08/29/2023 10:46:47 AM PDT by gbunch
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To: dangus

“But wouldn’t it make more sense to pick a nominee who can get elected and fix the broken justice system that would send Trump to jail?”
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There is no question that the Democrats are sly, cunning and absolutely devoid of moral principle. Unfortunately, they are laying a trap for Republicans that would likely result in the feeble and corrupt Biden squeaking out another victory in 2024. The Trump only crowd is preparing to step right into their well-designed trap.

Specifically, by issuing this plethora of indictments, they not only ensure Trump will be almost wholly distracted with legal proceedings, they have also driven up his poll numbers in the GOP nominating process. This is exactly what they want - a bloodied and bruised Trump staggering to the Republican nomination.

Next, consider that the Secretaries of State in the key swing states will no doubt move to remove Trump’s name from the General Ballot, citing Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. As cunning as they are, they will likely delay this action until it’s too late to make an appeal to the USSC. With Trump off the ballot in PA, MI, WI, CO, and AZ, there is no possibility of a Trump victory.

GOP primary voters need to consider the enormous risk they are taking by allowing Trump to get the nomination. At this point, his efforts are less focused on the future course of the country than they are of his achieving personal vindication.

I supported Trump in 2016 and 2020, but it is of supreme importance that Biden and Harris be removed from power in 2024. There is no path for a General Election victory for Trump in 2024, even against Biden. The swing states aren’t coming back to Trump, and any effort to expand the GOP voting electorate has been destroyed by his character assassinations and childish antics against his GOP rivals. Spending $25m in leftist attack ads against DeSantis is appalling! It’s far more preferable to select a nominee who has the right vision for the country, but not be carrying such enormous baggage.


23 posted on 08/29/2023 10:51:45 AM PDT by pkajj
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To: dangus

“wouldn’t it make more sense to pick a nominee who can get elected and fix the broken justice system that would send Trump to jail?”

a) What they’re doing to Trump they will also do to any other candidate they see as a threat

b) You’ll probably have no problem finding candidates who will promise to “fix the broken system”, but since all but one of the other candidates seem happy that Trump is being prosecuted, I don’t think you’ll easily find any candidate who actually will want to fix the broken system. They benefit from it, why would they want to fix it?


27 posted on 08/29/2023 11:03:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: dangus

“But wouldn’t it make more sense to pick a nominee who can get elected and fix the broken justice system that would send Trump to jail?”
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There is no such nominee. No one can bring voters out like Trump, not even close.

It’s Trump or bust, we had better ALL rally behind him - because, after all, if they can do this to a billionaire ex-President, what do you think they can do to anyone else?


53 posted on 08/29/2023 10:50:43 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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