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NJ Adopting Same Gun Control Technology That Failed in Maryland
Breitbart ^ | 08/25/2023 | AWR HAWKINS

Posted on 08/25/2023 7:55:53 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

New Jersey Attorney General Matthew Platkin (D) outlined the state’s plan to require guns sold in the state be outfitted with micrcostamping technology to leave an “identifying marker” on spent shell casings.

Two things: 1) The technology only applies to semiautomatic firearms, as they are the guns that eject shell casings after each shot. Therefore, criminals who use revolvers will immediately circumvent the microstamping issue. 2). Maryland had a microstamping requirement for 15 years and ended it after spending $5 million to maintain the microstamping database but solving no crimes.

Yet NJ AG Platkin said, “This amazing yet straightforward technology – imprinting unique identifiers on the firing pin of firearms – will have a profound impact on public safety across the state,” according to The Center Square.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; maryland; nj; technology
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Identifying marker??? How stupid.
1 posted on 08/25/2023 7:55:53 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

NJ crime lab-—”We know who committed the crime...but we’re not going to prosecute because once again, it’s a D-voter”.


2 posted on 08/25/2023 7:58:17 AM PDT by mikelets456
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Even if it worked, couldn’t a criminal just buy a generic firing pin online and swap it with the stamped one?


3 posted on 08/25/2023 7:59:55 AM PDT by circlecity
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4 posted on 08/25/2023 8:01:09 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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Why not just pass a bill requiring anyone who uses a gun to commit a crime be required to leave a business card at the scene? Makes more sense to me.


5 posted on 08/25/2023 8:03:01 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Say anything you like. Just don't say anything you don't like." - Old communist proverb.)
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That there’s no way to implement this nonsense in a practical manner is the whole point of the bill. Requiring guns to only be sold with features that don’t exist gets them where they want to be: less guns sold/available to the public. I wonder if it has the usual police exemptions.

Freegards


6 posted on 08/25/2023 8:03:40 AM PDT by Ransomed
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Use a brass catcher; go to jail.
That card better have a toll free number on it.


7 posted on 08/25/2023 8:05:38 AM PDT by sasquatch
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Platkin is a moron. The range I go to has barrels for people to throw their expended casings in. Any chump wanting to commit a crime could go there and grab a couple handfuls to spread around their crime scenes. Soros’ AGs sure are a bunch of morons.


8 posted on 08/25/2023 8:07:58 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Say anything you like. Just don't say anything you don't like." - Old communist proverb.)
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> Even if it worked, couldn’t a criminal just buy a generic firing pin online and swap it with the stamped one? <

For most every measure, there will be a countermeasure*. I wonder if a quick pass with a metal file would also work, just enough to mess with stamp. If that does work, you can bet everyone in the hood will know about it in a day.

* There’s one measure that has no countermeasure: Long prison sentences for repeat offenders. I guess our Democrat friends haven’t thought about that yet.


9 posted on 08/25/2023 8:09:05 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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“Even if it worked, couldn’t a criminal just buy a generic firing pin online and swap it with the stamped one”

Of course, but they would never do that. Replacing the CD firing pin would be illegal!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣


10 posted on 08/25/2023 8:09:23 AM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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Even if it worked, couldn’t a criminal just buy a generic firing pin online and swap it with the stamped one?

One swipe with a file...

11 posted on 08/25/2023 8:12:06 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Maryland never required microstamping. They tried to use ballistic fingerprinting where a spent shell was sent to the Maryland State Police lab. The shell was thought to have unique, repeatable, markings left from the chamber.


12 posted on 08/25/2023 8:17:14 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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Yet NJ AG Platkin said, “This amazing yet straightforward technology – imprinting unique identifiers on the firing pin of firearms – will have a profound impact on public safety across the state,” according to The Center Square.


who says lobbying doesn’t work................


13 posted on 08/25/2023 8:25:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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But the deformed stamp could just become a different unique stamp.


14 posted on 08/25/2023 8:43:29 AM PDT by circlecity
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But the deformed stamp could just become a different unique stamp.

You don't understand. Forensic labs can already match a firing pin to a fired case. Forensic labs can match a spent shell casing to a firearm through unique markings on the walls of the case as they are pressed into the chamber of the barrel. They can identify unique marks made by the extractor to a specific gun.

But all of the above requires that you already have the firearm and a spent casing in your possession.

Microstamping is designed to mark the shell casing with a unique serial number to identify the firearm that fired the casing without needing to have the gun in your possession.

The theory is that they can pick up a casing, identify the firearm, then perform a firearm trace back to the owner, and from there find the shooter.

In practice it doesn't work. The microstamping technology is not very reliable, and as I said it is too easy to alter the microstamping enough to make it unreadable.

If you bought a new firearm in the early 2000s, you would have found an envelope with two spent casings included in the box. There were a few states that required all new handguns sold to submit two sample spent casings to their police labs in order to build up a database of shell casing marks that could be used to identify the gun that shot the cases, but after 10 years and millions of dollars, not one crime was solved. Those states dropped the requirement.

15 posted on 08/25/2023 9:31:38 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Lol - I always thought those casings with the new gun were just to show that it had been test fired and was a safe firearm to operate.


16 posted on 08/25/2023 9:48:31 AM PDT by circlecity
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“Even if it worked, couldn’t a criminal just buy a generic firing pin online and swap it with the stamped one?”

or even just a couple of swipes with an emery board or rock ...

oh, i know, make it ILLEGAL to tamper with a firing pin ... they can add the tampering charge to the robbery, home invasion, carjacking, or murder charge committed with a tampered firing pin to discourage such tampering ... assuming they catch and prosecute the miscreant in the first place ...


17 posted on 08/25/2023 9:56:00 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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Further proof people are stupid. If you’re a criminal, after shooting a semi-auto, just pick up your brass.

If a cop is shooting a semi at the public range near you, pick up HIS brass and later spread it around the crime scene. Forensics finds the cops brass. The cop gets arrested.

18 posted on 08/25/2023 10:52:28 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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Two swipes with a file on the firing pin makes it inert. The morons who write these laws, and most owners know nothing about how a weapon works. Everything is a fully automatic Glock assault rifle.


19 posted on 08/25/2023 10:54:39 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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Further proof of idiocy. A micro stamped firing pin does not imprint the brass case (not casing). It imprints the PRIMER. Those who do not know what a cartridge primer is also thinks a mag is a clip, a cartridge is a bullet, and a steering wheel is a car.

People who think they know all this crap should be able to detail strip a 1911, Sig, Beretta 92, a HiPower. Then load a hundred rounds with cartridge components. If ya can’t, stay home and have a cup of warm milk and pick lint from yer navel.

20 posted on 08/25/2023 11:02:47 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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