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Is It Time to Ban Electric Vehicles?-The taboo little problem of the battery fire hazard.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | August 21, 2023 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 08/21/2023 5:44:55 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: katana

1) Pressure in the rear tires was key to stopping Corvairs’ from spinning out.

2) A curved piece of hard rubber was the Pintos’ factory retrofit for rear-end crashes. (The most infamous was caused by a van driver, who rammed a Pinto with four aboard at 40-MPH!)


21 posted on 08/21/2023 6:48:14 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦...................."Who is Ray Epps?" should be overstamped on every piece of currency.)
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To: Varda

The thing is, EVs can be a hoot to drive. They’re fast off the line and at around town speeds. Max torque at 0 rpm, that’s how electric motors work. Heavy, so they don’t corner well, and of course refueling is a PITB. But they aren’t necessarily bad to drive for many use cases. Not mine, mind you, but for many.


22 posted on 08/21/2023 6:51:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SJackson

No, not yet. See, they have to ban internal combustion vehicles first, and get everyone to buy EVs, and then they can ban the EVs.


23 posted on 08/21/2023 7:09:51 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Does so

“1) Pressure in the rear tires was key to stopping Corvairs’ from spinning out.”

I had an old rear wheel drive car that was prone to fishtailing when it was wet, and the solution was similar, I just had to keep some extra weight in the trunk.


24 posted on 08/21/2023 7:13:12 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: FreedomPoster

I guessed that because the Tesla drivers love their cars. I imagine if that lady’s Jeep was in that category she wouldn’t care what anyone said but I think it’s a PIA so the ribbing adds insult to injury.


25 posted on 08/21/2023 7:14:29 AM PDT by Varda
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To: SJackson

If the government had a brain it would build more bike paths! The population would be better for it, we could work from home on inckenent days etc... However with the defund and catch-and-release programs and everything else in society breaking down, a bike path might be a hazardous one way ticket to death by the undesirables.

//½ snark//


26 posted on 08/21/2023 7:22:50 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: SJackson

Now separate those from EVs from those caused by cheap e-bike batteries and cheap poorly-designed chargers.


27 posted on 08/21/2023 7:24:42 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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To: katana

“The problem with the Corvair.... pintos”

Wait the front end, and put in a fuel bladder inside the tank. I liked pintos, a couple friends used to drive them around put a nice set of rims on them four on the floor it was kind of a nice little American buzz bomb.

The Corvairs were kind of cool looking. If it was a weight distribution problem why didn’t Volkswagen bugs have the same issues... or did they? According to Click and Clack the bugs were death traps.


28 posted on 08/21/2023 7:29:00 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: SJackson

The problem with batteries is that once they start burning there’s not much to keep them from releasing their energy as quickly as possible. In that sense they’re kind of like a bomb. OTOH a gasoline fire is somewhat self limiting. It needs oxygen to burn and the availability of oxygen is limited by the surface area of the gasoline and other factors. So the release of energy is slower and less violent. A gasoline fire is just good ol’ combustion which is fairly benign compared to the nasty chemical fire you get with a battery.

The fire hazard aspect of batteries is a serious drawback that’s going to need to be fixed. Batteries will need to be designed to incorporate some means to self-limit the energy release when they burn IMO.


29 posted on 08/21/2023 7:43:47 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: SJackson

Must be global warming causing the batteries to burn.


30 posted on 08/21/2023 7:46:20 AM PDT by chopperk ( )
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To: fwdude

Battery powered EVs were always a niche vehicle, suitable for use in a relatively limited circumstances. The battery technology is just not there yet, and may never be, because of limiting factors related to how the batteries could be recharged, the heat gain by rapid charge or discharge of the battery array, the potential that spent batteries have for recycling, and the weight factor.

Fuel-cell electric vehicles show vastly more promise for a future means of powering vehicles suitable for highway and long-distance travel, even large cargo trucks and interurban buses. There may even be some good sense in taking a step backward, going to hybrid Diesel-electric power delivery, which seems to work just fine in railway locomotives. The Diesel power unit runs a generator, which provides power to the electric motors located on each wheel, altogether a much more efficient way of transmitting power to the wheels than gearboxes and differential axles. with their inherent friction and slippages.


31 posted on 08/21/2023 7:47:21 AM PDT by alloysteel (Take back the rainbow. Its use by LGBTQ is cultural misappropriation.)
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To: oldasrocks

It has just occurred to me that the tablet that I am typing this on also uses a Li-Ion battery. Do I have to treat it like a possible incendiary device?


32 posted on 08/21/2023 8:14:10 AM PDT by jmcenanly (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston)
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To: SJackson

Kinda funny that anyone would call for their banning. Everything has risks. I dont own one but do have a ebike. I don’t think the government should determine I can or cannot take risks with my life and property.


33 posted on 08/21/2023 10:18:40 AM PDT by consult
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To: econjack

Boom Boom


34 posted on 08/21/2023 11:17:21 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Clutch Martin

Rear engines are the issue. You do not want to lift near or in the apex of a turn. It is counterintuitive. You will be cuttin 360s for a while. They don’t call Porsche’s widow makers for nutting.


35 posted on 08/21/2023 4:31:39 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Clutch Martin

Both the Corvair and the VW had the same issue but the Corvair had 2-3 times the horsepower so it was easier to get in trouble. Rear engine caused the car to push into a curve and try to keep going straight.


36 posted on 08/21/2023 4:40:59 PM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch)
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To: econjack

#4 When an electric car is in an accident and the battery pack splits open you will have battery shrapnel flying everywhere.
The batteries are a bit bigger then double AA ones and if you get hit by one you will either be dead or badly wounded.

In the video in the story just look at the blowtorch and explosions!
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https://nbc16.com/news/local/tesla-crashes-at-100-mph-in-corvallis-sends-batteries-shooting-through-apartment-windows
A driver high on marijuana crashed a Tesla into an apartment building late Tuesday night, sending hundreds of small batteries flying, police said. Two of the batteries shot through apartment windows. One landed in a resident’s lap. The other came to rest on a bed - and set the sheets on fire.
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Battery pack ejected
https://electrek.co/2023/02/02/audi-e-tron-battery-pack-seen-ejecting-during-crash/


37 posted on 08/21/2023 7:38:05 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: SJackson
Meanwhile...

China could control the brakes of electric cars in the UK in major security threat The report claims Chinese firms and authorities have access to some data in connected electric cars, including locations.

38 posted on 08/28/2023 4:46:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: SJackson

So....how does owning an electric vehicle affect your insurance premiums?


39 posted on 08/28/2023 4:56:50 AM PDT by Overtaxed (Stiff the Fed)
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To: SJackson

Tesla


40 posted on 08/28/2023 5:01:26 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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