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San Francisco fire sale: Investors 'bottom fishing' are buying up city's downtown at '70% discount'
UK Daily Mail ^ | August 20 2023 | FIONA CONNOR

Posted on 08/20/2023 9:50:58 AM PDT by knighthawk

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To: knighthawk

That wouldn’t be Blackrock would it?


21 posted on 08/20/2023 10:13:34 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What’s your opinion on CRE and general economy?

I haven’t seen you or another poster around for a while. Both investment guys…
Saw him yesterday and now you.
Makes me think something is going on…


22 posted on 08/20/2023 10:14:34 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Grampa Dave

Everything we were told was a lie.
Everything we are being told, is a lie!
Everything we will be told, will be a lie!


Including what you’re telling us?


23 posted on 08/20/2023 10:16:03 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: knighthawk

There are huge costs to maintain an empty office building. You can’t just shut off the utilities. Mold grows in your climate control equipment and other places like carpet and office furniture when you do that.


24 posted on 08/20/2023 10:16:40 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: EEGator
What’s your opinion on CRE and general economy?

Wouldn't invest in CRE if you paid me.

I've been looking for a recession for the last year. Maybe Biden gets lucky? I don't know.

25 posted on 08/20/2023 10:16:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: McGavin999
yes, this is certainly a possibility that the rats are destroying one way or another otherwise valuable properties by making them very less valuable so they can swoop in and buy it all....

you will own nothing and be happy...

IMO this is what Buffet does...talks down or diminishes an entity and then buys it at a discount...

26 posted on 08/20/2023 10:18:39 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I was similar with respect to timing. I honestly don’t understand how things are still where they are…


27 posted on 08/20/2023 10:21:46 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: TalBlack

“Watch that disappear once enough of the properties gets into the “right” hands.”

When the elites finish building their new bunkers in Maui:”

They will be able to fly in their private jets, to shop, dine, dance, be entertained and spend the nights in the rebuilt San Francisco.

Everything, we were told was a lie.

Everything. we are being told, is a lie!

Everything, we will be told, will be a lie!


28 posted on 08/20/2023 10:23:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Asylum Seekers go to empty college dorms/class rooms in NY/NJ/Mass/West Point & NE blue citiesl)
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To: roadcat

The difference between the Chinese and the Japanese seems to be that the Chinese buy low, while the Japanese buy high.


29 posted on 08/20/2023 10:23:00 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Magic Fingers

There’s the rub.


30 posted on 08/20/2023 10:23:47 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

The massive Fed balance sheet. Massive federal spending.


31 posted on 08/20/2023 10:24:08 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: knighthawk

same thing happened in houston in the early 80s...oil bust.
Then oil boomed again.

can’t imagine what will make SF boom again...


32 posted on 08/20/2023 10:25:06 AM PDT by stylin19a (Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of a bagpipe. -- Lee Trevino)
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To: Newbomb Turk

That is if they interested in the buildings instead of prime vacant lots. After the housing bubble a few years ago there were mc-mansions torn down to make way for new mc-mansions.


33 posted on 08/20/2023 10:30:58 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: knighthawk
Office vacancies dipped to a low of 31 percent this year

I think they mean "Office vacancies increased to a high of 31 percent this year."

Or "Office occupancy dipped to a low of 69 percent this year."

34 posted on 08/20/2023 10:32:46 AM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: knighthawk

Property taxes will plummet-—and city budgets will be hammered.


35 posted on 08/20/2023 10:33:43 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Magic Fingers

Who knows?


36 posted on 08/20/2023 10:39:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Asylum Seekers go to empty college dorms/class rooms in NY/NJ/Mass/West Point & NE blue citiesl)
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To: knighthawk

This is a war of attrition. The new owners will install their own “police” in due course.


37 posted on 08/20/2023 10:41:39 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: EEGator

>I honestly don’t understand how things are still where they are…

Check out the “Wealthion” yt channel. Excellent podcast, he’s as confused as the rest of us.


38 posted on 08/20/2023 10:47:54 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: Jeff Chandler
The difference between the Chinese and the Japanese seems to be that the Chinese buy low, while the Japanese buy high.

Another difference is that the Japanese value high quality, and desire to offer same. The Chinese simply are out for quick profit while cutting corners on quality.

39 posted on 08/20/2023 10:48:29 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: TalBlack

Freedom of Access to Commercial Building Entrances

Obstruction of a Commercial Business or Commercial Business District


40 posted on 08/20/2023 10:50:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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