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To: Steve Van Doorn

You have to admit he was an idiot to plead guilty. Why would you if you don’t think you are? I bet trump won’t do what this jerk did and plead guilty.


17 posted on 08/18/2023 6:32:18 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator
You have to admit he was an idiot to plead guilty. Why would you if you don’t think you are? I bet trump won’t do what this jerk did and plead guilty.

Doubling down on stupid.

Eight other posters on this thread trashed your initial post - because they know that if you defy the feds, the feds go for the MAXIMUM sentence, as an example for all the other peasants.

Since their conviction rate is in the mid-90s [even outside the DC Swamp], pleading not guilty is a fool's errand, unless you're a billionaire with lots of lawyers.

20 posted on 08/18/2023 6:41:46 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: napscoordinator

Trump has billions of reasons to plead not guilty.

This fellow didn’t.


29 posted on 08/18/2023 8:12:52 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: napscoordinator

lol - you must like getting dragged.


30 posted on 08/18/2023 9:04:08 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: napscoordinator
"You have to admit he was an idiot to plead guilty. Why would you if you don’t think you are? I bet trump won’t do what this jerk did and plead guilty."

Trump is a billionaire. The process to win a case like this is a minimum of about $250,000 (trial/appeals and so on.) If he was his own lawyer anything he said would be used against him.

Remember they did enter the building which was a minor misdemeanor in my opinion. Should be community service or something.

The guy that picked up the podium which i think he might have been a bad actor. He had people pay for his defense it cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars and he spent about 18 months in prison.

Look at in economic terms and the threat they gave him. It was a misdemeanor if he pleads guilty. or
Obstructing an official proceeding (used against defendants in Jan 6 and electoral collage vote count.) "fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstructing_an_official_proceeding
The 20 year sentence for interrupting is ridiculous but that is what they set.
""improper purpose" means cause unnecessary delay" No more then 20 years.
Am I mistaken but they could charge anyone in congress with that?
https://law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1515
https://law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_11
32 posted on 08/19/2023 2:01:56 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: napscoordinator
shaman guy (Jacob Chansley) add up all these charges. he was looking at about 40 years in prison if he lost
Remember the guards never asked him to leave and they gave him an escorted tour.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1352916/download
34 posted on 08/19/2023 2:18:04 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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