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Vivek Ramaswamy shares 10 commandments of 2024 campaign, starts with 'God is real,' 'There are two genders'
Fox News ^ | 08/18/2023 | Lawrence Richard

Posted on 08/18/2023 8:26:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

“RE: Lol... you just ‘had’ to ask, didn’t ya.

Of course everyone wants a faultless, wise, Christian leader. That’s why I asked who you had in mind. Unless we can identify such a person and that person actually runs for president, we have no choice but to choose from what God, in his wisdom has provided for us.”

I get that you are apparently “all in” for Vivek... but I seriously doubt that God is also “all in” for a practicing Hindu...(remember that very 1st Commandment?). And I am going to be for whoever I figure God approves of.

My constant verbal battle with my Christian TrumpOnly relatives is.... if God really had chosen Trump, then he would still BE in office and in the WH right now and we wouldn’t be having this conversation. They disagree, give many excuses and lame reasons ‘why’...but the end result is there is no reasoning with them.

I only know who I would or would not trust to lead this nation and anyone that is not even pretending to be a Christian ... and anyone that is a Democrat... and anyone that I know for a fact to be a DS globalist is automatically NOT on that list. That’s all I know.

Trump has a proven record of doing good ‘for’ America. DeSantis has a proven record of doing good ‘for’ Florida. Those two are the only ones I know of that I could safely vote “for”... but as I have said before, ultimately...I will support anyone on the right that can and will beat and fight the radical left Democrats. The ‘goes without saying’ part is/was that they also have to be a Christian... NOT a Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim or heathen.


61 posted on 08/20/2023 9:51:32 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: SeekAndFind

“The charge regarding Vivek’s mom altering a drug study to make Vivek’s Alzheimer’s drug sound like it works - and make him rich, is a SERIOUS charge that IF TRUE, makes him and his mom liable for criminal prosecution for FRAUD.

I need a reliable link for this serious accusation. It deserves a separate FR Discussion thread on its own.”

And again, I didn’t make that charge and know nothing about it.


62 posted on 08/20/2023 9:54:05 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Reily

“Pardoning the Bidens would be a hard case to make and could depend on many factors like giving up who & how extensive is their network of associates. SloJoe and family had 40+ years selling access to the “Big Guy”. I imagine his network of “customers and enablers” stretch from Delaware through DC to the West Coast. Just lopping off the top solves only the immediate problem. So, saying an automatic inflexible “No” to pardons is not always smart!

Note we did eventually pardon WWII traitors, they certainly were no where near completing their sentences and we did it with virtually no conditions. We did it because we are a compassionate nation so doing so is not unheard of.”

I don’t care how compassionate a nation we were in the past. Things change. Drastically. And I am saying HELL NO to pardoning the Bidens. And that goes for the others that have committed high treason against America for the past several decades. Some call it tough love, but there’s no room for love when you’re dealing with radical Marxist leftists. I have a very appropriate “zero tolerance” policy when it comes to these DS cretins.


63 posted on 08/20/2023 9:57:49 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: SeekAndFind
Please provide a reliable link for us to read.

I read it online just a week or so ago.

So far I've not seen it in the main stream media.

I don't know now where I read it.

I guess you could google around - or we will wait and see what pops up.

64 posted on 08/20/2023 10:10:24 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Danie_2023

So, you don’t want to catch the network, which is extensive. Without the chance of pardon there is no incentive to get them to reveal it. With the word “pardon” I include commuting the sentence.

This is not compassion this is smart investigation!


65 posted on 08/20/2023 10:14:08 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Until 2020 or so, the only place I’d heard gender used was Jr high French class. Since it is a made up, Orwellian word, I guess they can have as many genders as they desire. Just don’t expect me to recognize them. There are 2 sexes. Anything else is Orwellian.


66 posted on 08/20/2023 10:20:35 AM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Reily

“So, you don’t want to catch the network, which is extensive. Without the chance of pardon there is no incentive to get them to reveal it. With the word “pardon” I include commuting the sentence.

This is not compassion this is smart investigation!”

No, I get the concept. And I see your logic and point. But I’m being honest re: what I would do if it were in my purview. No damn way would I pardon the Bidens or any of the “other” treasonists that have done, and are still doing, their level best to destroy America from within in order to facilitate the ultimate takeover by the communist left globalists.


67 posted on 08/20/2023 10:21:15 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Danie_2023

To me it’s far more important to catch the “pay-to-play” network. It might even haul (or at least begin to!0) in the Pelosi, Romney, McConnell, Obama & Clinton, etc. networks. They would gladly sacrifice the Bidens if it meant they could continue. Sating my revenge is unimportant compared to that!


68 posted on 08/20/2023 10:53:32 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

RE: guess you could google around - or we will wait and see what pops up.

Here are my key google words: Vivek Ramaswamy, Alzheimer’s, drugs

Nothing about his mother’s faking a test.

His venture Alzheimer’s drug development company, Axovant did not succeed in the final stage trials . That’s all I see.


69 posted on 08/20/2023 10:55:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“ Ramaswamy’s mother (a physician) took one of the failed clinical trials and reinterpreted it, by eliminating patients who didn’t stay with the trial (because of side effects, the drug not working, or whatever), claiming there was some statistical benefit to the drug.”


70 posted on 08/20/2023 10:59:50 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: SeekAndFind

Forgot to give link.

First I found. Likely more.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-08-10/how-did-vivek-ramaswamy-get-rich


71 posted on 08/20/2023 11:00:44 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Danie_2023; Fiji Hill

Let’s make one thing clear from the outset:

There is a difference between

A) attempting to develop a previously failed drug using a different possible combination of substances with it to see if it will work and succeed and asking investors to help shoulder the venture with the POSSIBILITY of financial rewards and;

B) KNOWING IN ADVANCE that the previously failed drug will NEVER WORK and maliciously telling potential investors that you are sure it will work and bilking them of their money.

Option A is an honorable American characteristic in the tradition of Thomas Edison and Nikolai Tesla. We , as a free nation, should encourage daring ventures in order to reap potential rewards.

Option B should be and is punishable by law because it is FRAUDULENT.

Let’s get back to Vivek and his venture company, Axovant. You wrote :

1. Ramaswamy’s parent company (Roivant) spent $5 million (a tiny amount, by biotech standards) buying the rights to a drug candidate for Alzheimer’s disease from GSK, plc (the former GlaxoSmithKline) that had failed four out of four clinical trials, and formed a subsidiary company around it called Axovant.

My Comment : Nothing wrong with that. If Vivent’s group believes that the drug can be modified and developed IN COMBINATION with other drugs or molecules, hey, it’s a venture worth pursuing.

2. Ramaswamy’s mother (a physician) took one of the failed clinical trials and reinterpreted it, by eliminating patients who didn’t stay with the trial (because of side effects, the drug not working, or whatever), claiming there was some statistical benefit to the drug.

MY COMMENT: is this a malicious attempt at doctoring the data? Or a sincere belief that the data should be reinterpreted in a different way?

Regardless, in my view, her study is useless as the GSK drug STILL had to undergo the mandated Phase trials demanded by the government.

The person who wrote this ( a Tweet ), named Paffarth, is implying that Vivek and mother are dishonestly doctoring the data. We haven’t read the Ramaswamy response to this particular accusation, so I’m keeping an open mind either way.

3. Ramaswamy brought Axovant public, raising $362 million in its IPO, for a drug Paffrath claims Ramaswamy knew would fail its stage three clinical trial.
The drug failed, and Axovant (now called Sio Gene Therapies) is down 99.75% from its IPO.

The key phrase is KNEW IT WOULD FAIL. How does Paffrath know what’s in Vivek’s mind? Couldn’t it be that Vivek REALLY BELIEVED that the drug STILL had promise?

Let’s look at what happened by reading this :

https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/roivant-ceo-yes-we-failed-alzheimer-s-but-we-re-not-giving-up

Notice that this was a 6 year old article !

[EXCERPT]

Ramaswamy, just 32 but running Roivant and its ever-growing family of biotechs, said at the Financial Times Biotech and Pharma event in London yesterday that the failure of his 5HT6 receptor antagonist intepirdine in a phase 3 test was a result of taking a risk, and that he would not be backing away from the fight to find a treatment that works as so many others have done in the face of failure.

For sure, he talked up its chances, hoping it would buck the 15-year negative trend in biopharma AD research, but with a sense of statistical inevitability, it flopped six weeks ago in almost every outcome.

SNIP SNIP

The drug was developed originally by GlaxoSmithKline but licensed to Axovant, a Roivant company now headed by former Medivation CEO David Hung.

It had always been considered a high-risk project after similar drugs developed by Pfizer and Lundbeck failed late-stage trials. But Ramaswamy defended the decision to try again with the med.

“I think companies such as Axovant have an obligation to step into areas that Big Pharma may be unwilling to continue in, such as Alzheimer’s, where research isn’t easy and you need a smaller, more focused approach. And we’re here to give these assets the light of day and give them the opportunity to realize the potential they may not have got under a bigger company.

SNIP SNIP

Productivity runs down in bigger companies,” he said. “When you’re running something more focused, you can give complete attention to the science at hand; that’s why I have this structure.”

Axovant is still working on a phase 2b study of intepirdine, as well as ex-Arena med nelotanserin, the highly selective inverse agonist of the 5-HT2A receptor also in phase 2, both of which are being evaluated in patients with dementia with Lewy bodies.

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So, Vivek bought the rights to a drug from a huge Biopharma, his team used the drug and modified its development, it went through Phase 1 and 2 trials but FAILED in phase 3. The company had an IPO touting the drugs’ potential, the IPO was successful and caused the company’s stock to SPIKE. After the failure of the phase III trial, the stock sank to less than a $1 per share.

QUESTION : Was this venture a fraud, or was it an honest attempt at developing something that could possibly succeed but didn’t?

If it was ( past tense ) a fraud, why didn’t the SEC charge Vivek?

And why is Axovant Sciences still LISTED in the stock market and still allowed to develop dementia drugs and do business?

See here :

https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/NASDAQ:AXON/Axovant-Sciences


72 posted on 08/20/2023 1:31:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Danie_2023

RE: I get that you are apparently “all in” for Vivek... but I seriously doubt that God is also “all in” for a practicing Hindu...(remember that very 1st Commandment?). And I am going to be for whoever I figure God approves of.

1. I am NOT ( repeat NOT ) all in for Vivek. I believe that 2024 is not his nor DeSantis’ time. Maybe 2028, but not now.

2. Trump is still my candidate for the Presidency because HE HAS A RECORD that I like, and I believe that he must win in order for America to defeat the corrupt Deep State and put to shame all these corrupt DAs who are fabricating bogus charges against him.

3. However, and that’s big IF, should by some bizarre fluke, it REALLY came down to Vivek Ramaswamy vs the senile and corrupt Joe Biden, I will vote for Vivek. The choice isn’t even hard.

Regarding What God’s plan is for this country, far be it from me to guess HOW he plans to deliver America from its slide towards decline. God has used pagans before to restore the nation of Israel ( see King Cyrus of Persia ). I am even open to the possibility that Vivek could ultimately acknowledge Him (YHWH) as the one true God in the process of governing this country.

We are not in a position to know HOW God, in His sovereignty, will order things to accomplish His purpose. We can only vote based on the choices He sees fit to provide for us.


73 posted on 08/20/2023 1:59:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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