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With Ukraine’s 2023 counteroffensive ongoing, West starts to think about 2024 spring offensive
The New Voice of Ukraine via Yahoo ^ | August 14th, 2024 | Unattributed

Posted on 08/17/2023 1:01:52 PM PDT by Mariner

Military strategists and policymakers across the West are already starting to think about a 2024 spring offensive by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, The Wall Street Journal reported on Aug. 13.

When Kyiv’s counteroffensive began in the spring, optimists hoped Ukrainian troops could replicate their success last year in routing Russian forces. But an initial attempt to use newly supplied Western tanks and armored vehicles to punch through fortified Russian lines stalled, the WSJ said.

Since then, progress has been slow and painful, relying on small-unit tactics. A renewed push could still be in the offing. But military leaders and policymakers already are grappling with the question of what can be achieved in the next few months and how to prepare for a protracted conflict, as reported by WSJ.

A nagging concern in Kyiv and Western capitals is that politicians and voters may come to see the war as a quagmire and sour on supporting Ukraine. Even if Kyiv’s Western backers stay resolute, clocks are ticking as Ukrainian forces burn through munitions, manpower, and stamina for a grueling fight.

“Kyiv’s goal now is for its current offensive to culminate with sufficient gains to show Ukrainian citizens and backers in Washington, Berlin, and elsewhere that their support hasn’t been misplaced — and should continue,” the report says.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bid3ncrimefamily; dodindustrialcomplex; foreverwar; putinbots; wwiii
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To: PGR88

Why not let some bridges and rail junctions blow up in the middle of the night, blame it on the RC boats. We don’t have a large number of stealth drones, F-22s and B-2 so the enemy can tell the world why something went kaboom.

Really 12 1000 pound bombs on target slow russia to a crawl in region. Send in some storm shadows and some drones at the same time for a bid of deniability.

If putin gets upset, play the tapes of russian pilots over North Vietnam and Mig Ally, and then release the CIA/USAF interviews of those same pilots in the 1990s.

It is really frustrating to watch these two nations play war like 5 year olds play soccer.


21 posted on 08/17/2023 1:28:00 PM PDT by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: EEGator

Which is something we should all be very afraid of


22 posted on 08/17/2023 1:29:35 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: crz
   

I hear the property taxes are low, and there's lots of firewood.  

23 posted on 08/17/2023 1:30:24 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Mariner

Is anyone suggesting peace talks at all?


24 posted on 08/17/2023 1:42:13 PM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: frogjerk

“Is anyone suggesting peace talks at all?”


Yeah, Trump. That’s why he is under 100 indictments.

Suggesting an end to this war is unspeakable treason to the DC Globohomo Regime.


25 posted on 08/17/2023 1:48:00 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Mariner

This New Voice of Ukraine, is this a CIA front organization? It started in 2014 and I can find little else on it.


26 posted on 08/17/2023 2:02:31 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Mariner

The Neocons still hard at work with their psyops messaging. Expect billions more to be forfeited to the big war machine.


27 posted on 08/17/2023 2:06:58 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Mariner

Who won the battle of Verdun ?


28 posted on 08/17/2023 2:23:01 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: gibsonguy

Perhaps there’s something in the article you’d like to contest?


29 posted on 08/17/2023 2:46:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: protoconservative

Bizarre!

You’re advocating US flagged forces fire on Russian flagged forces...and you don’t even know it’s prima facie evidence of insanity.


30 posted on 08/17/2023 2:51:05 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Who won the battle of Verdun ?”

Are you trying to make a point?


31 posted on 08/17/2023 2:53:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PGR88; Rocco DiPippo; NWFree

Endless Summer - The Beach Boys


32 posted on 08/17/2023 3:11:02 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Mariner

Yahoo? You are defending Yahoo? Ohh K


33 posted on 08/17/2023 3:14:48 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy

“Yahoo? You are defending Yahoo?”

The Yahoo news feed is not curated.

Any publisher who wants to pay the fee, in hopes of clicks, gets on the feed in the proper category.

It is an EXCELLENT source.

Again, is there something in the article you’d like to contest...or are you too embarrassed now?


34 posted on 08/17/2023 3:23:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: kiryandil

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson


35 posted on 08/17/2023 3:28:17 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Both


36 posted on 08/17/2023 3:46:27 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: Mariner

If you ask ‘whose grand strategy was destroyed at Verdun?’ you could conclude that Germany certainly lost there.


37 posted on 08/17/2023 3:49:24 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: shadowlands1960

“If you ask ‘whose grand strategy was destroyed at Verdun?’ you could conclude that Germany certainly lost there.”

Yeah, but what’s the point of asking that question today on a Ukraine thread?

I’m soliciting the point.


38 posted on 08/17/2023 3:55:20 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Yeah. I actually intended that for the original poster.


39 posted on 08/17/2023 3:56:59 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: Mariner

Ukraine needs to change their tactics, and maybe their strategy. They’re wasting their human resources and their equipment.


40 posted on 08/17/2023 4:04:31 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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