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To: Jonty30

I posted this in a similar article about 2 weeks ago:

Japanese women have tremedous issues of their own.

They are two-faced (honne and tatemae). They will not tell you whats wrong. They will leave the relationship before telling you whatever the issue is. Huge problem, culturally.

They expect once married the man hands over his salry to them. Umm, no way. Dont care if dad did that for mom. If I’m not getting a traditional wife, don’t demand the man act traditional.

Third, the initial dating process of Japanese women destroys many good relationships but they don’t get the chance. The initial dates, first 3 or 4, if anything happens she doesnt like or is offended by, the guy won’t get ghosted. I am talking about stuff the average woman would be ok with, but for the 1st few dates she is hyper-critical of what the guy does and says. Like if he didnt iron his shirt properly. Like if she takes a comment the wrong way. They sabotage the chance of it working out. If a guy did this everyone would tell him hes an over-reacting baby. So the women there blow it this way.

Fourth, almost all Japanese women are atheists. May not be as major a deal to Japanese men, but to Christians and westerners thats a big deal. But anyone who doesn’t believe in a higher power, their moral foundations and way of viewing the world is a lot different than those who do.

Japanese women are very prideful as a group. If they decide to break it off with someone, they are too prideful to ever get back together with someone, even if they would want to, even if they realize maybe they were in the wrong. This level of pride is detrimental to relationships, and its something that can drive a person crazy in a very personal self controlled country like Japan.

There is also a huge cheating culture in Japan by both men and women. Women participate in the cheating culture there as well. Japenese women, being two faced, hiding things from a boyfriend or husband, are very good at hiding things from men, and they will hide their cheating from them as well. What she shows a man is not who she really is. Again its a cultural thing and its real. And its detrimental to trusting long term relationships.

The women there are not the cute adoring anime girls and the guys are always wrong.


23 posted on 08/17/2023 12:00:30 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They expect once married the man hands over his salry to them. Umm, no way. Dont care if dad did that for mom. If I’m not getting a traditional wife, don’t demand the man act traditional.

This comes out of the old Japanese interpretation of Confucian ethics and family roles. In Confucianism, concern with money is considered unethical; this is why in Japan's hierarchy, the merchant is near the bottom (samurai, farmer, tradesman, merchant, outcasts). So the role of money-handler in the family was given to the wife, and in industrial/corporate times, that meant that the husband would have over his salary to the wife, the wife would give her husband an allowance which he could spend any way he wanted...and then it became her responsibility to cover all the home expenses with what was left.

This led to a whole host of social side effects. First, Japanese women are notorious skinflints, since it is they who lose face if the bills aren't paid; ironically, it is also why tatemae purchases, items that are to be seen, are always high-class (expenses purses, for example) to show how the woman handles the money so well as to afford such things, while items that aren't seen are always purchased at the lowest possible cost.

Second, a husband who doesn't provide enough is undesirable; a woman wants to marry someone who is going to go up the corporate ladder, who makes covering the household expenses easy. This also requires the husband, in Japan's pseudo-workaholic culture, to spend most of his time on the job, so the actual friendship between husband and wife is thoroughly unnecessary--a woman is not so much marrying a husband as hiring him.

Third, the wife's other role, which grows out of her running the finances, is to ensure the future success of the children. It is her job to get them through the best schools beginning with the best kindergarten through the best university, plus the best training in one of the arts (usually music). That turns the children into workaholics ("four hours pass, five hours fail" being the proverb of how much sleep you get in order to study hard enough) themselves, so that they can grow up to become the kind of woman who can get a financially-secure man, or the kind of man who can be financially secure enough to get a woman.

What has happened in the past generation is that young people have lost any personal sense of benefit from marriage. A woman who can make enough money on her own doesn't need to deal with a husband, a man who doesn't care about having children doesn't need to deal with a wife, and since most young people have left their hometowns for the big city, there is no neighborhood pushing for marriages and families.

Rampant abortion makes casual sex easy, and not living in a small town means no one is gossiping about you and making you lose face if you hook up.

The solution in Japan is the same as the solution here, even though the origins of our marital-less and childlessness are different. The concept of a marriage where two people who are equal before God with different roles with each other comes from Christianity, and the Japanese would have to turn to Christianity, with Americans returning to Christianity, in order to retrieve and live out that concept. In America, that necessitates a Third Awakening, but in Japan, which hasn't embraced Christianity since the 1500s, it will take a miracle.

44 posted on 08/17/2023 9:51:48 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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