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To: Boogieman

No, doing the right thing isn’t always popular but it doesn’t get votes. Be right and lose or change.

Yes, the media/dems will hammer anything but it doesn’t help when republicans send mailers against abortion and make commercials stating the same.

I recommend you look further into the ‘opinions on abortion’. If I understood you correctly, moderates and independents don’t care about abortion. Most ads ran in Ohio were about abortion (from both parties) and we lost.

Whether it’s an issue within the party, I don’t know. Personally, I depise the (uni)party. I made the post for those that claim ‘winning the general is the only thing that matters’. They have to address abortion to do that. Personally I would like to see the party die. They are grifters and hate the voters.


112 posted on 08/16/2023 11:34:06 AM PDT by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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To: Moe-Patrick

Outside of Trump, there is no passion for the GOP. They are The Seinfeld Party, a party about nothing.


113 posted on 08/16/2023 11:44:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Moe-Patrick

“Be right and lose or change.”

Basically that’s what life boils down to. If winning is that important to you, though, you may find out that you didn’t really win anything, in the end.

“If I understood you correctly, moderates and independents don’t care about abortion.”

No, I didn’t say that. You might win votes from them with a certain stance being “moderate” on abortion. Or you might not. Moderates and independents are fickle by their very nature, so you can’t count those chickens before they hatch. On the other hand, you will most definitely lose loyal Republican votes with such a stance. That may not matter too much in a very moderate state, but it will certainly matter if you want to win a national election.

“I made the post for those that claim ‘winning the general is the only thing that matters’. They have to address abortion to do that.”

I don’t know if that’s true. For now, abortion is essentially dead as a national issue. Congress can’t pass a law on it (well they could, but the law would be DOA when it hit the courts), and there’s not much the President can do either. It’s a state issue now. Why should we need to take a stance on state issues in a national election in order to win? Seems foolish to me. I don’t see anyone asking national candidates what the local property tax level should be, or whether they need to change some zoning ordinance or talking about water rights.


114 posted on 08/16/2023 11:59:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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