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To: FreeReign

I agree, Trump is facing a lot right now. With only half of Republicans still strongly supporting him, and probably even less in Congress, he’s got an uphill battle. I hope he can pull it off, but the odds are certainly against him. But his loss, is not a total loss, for all conservatives or Republicans.

Trump did what he wanted, too many times, ignoring the advice of everyone, especially on things like J6, which gave the Democrats all the momentum that’s led to where we are now. Trump split the party and his support on that day. All the witnesses against him are his own former staff, including the VP, AG, and Chief of Staff.

So it’s not the grand battle of all D vs all R that you’re making it out to be. It’s Trump, and his supporters, against mostly D’s, but a lot of R’s as well. As I said, I hope he can somehow win these cases, else all Republicans will be smeared forever from here on. But that’s another reason I think a lot of Republicans still supporting him will start cutting their losses as well, to help the Party survive.


245 posted on 08/14/2023 9:08:20 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: Golden Eagle

The Party doesn’t deserve to survive. The Party will not fix things.


247 posted on 08/14/2023 9:09:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Golden Eagle

What we should be terrified about is simply the outright and intentional overreach. They don’t even try to hide their corruption of the law anymore, in fact, they are making a game of it.


255 posted on 08/14/2023 9:24:27 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Golden Eagle

From where I’m sitting the republican party doesn’t survive this. And I’m going to take it a step further. I don’t think our political system survives this. What happens when one of the parties in a two-party system totally collapses?

At this point many republican voters will permanently abandon The GOP. They don’t fight for their voters, they don’t fight for America, they can’t even protect their presidential candidates. They are either powerless or enemy collaborators. I actually hold greater contempt for people like Mitch McConnell than I do Adam Schiff or Nancy Pelosi.

No, I don’t buy your analysis. I think all of these proceedings will be a death knell for the republican party. There’s been a growing dissatisfaction with the republican party for a while now. That’s how we got Trump in the first place.


260 posted on 08/14/2023 9:34:48 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: Golden Eagle
I think you are miscalculating what Trump and this country is up against. If the global establishment takes out Trump with indictments, there will be no coming back...for the country.

I agree, Trump is facing a lot right now.

No. It's not just Trump. It's the entire freedom loving country that is up against it. It's more than being about Trump. You can't get past that can you.

Trump split the party and his support on that day.

Nope, the party establishment has caused the split.

So it’s not the grand battle of all D vs all R that you’re making it out to be. It’s Trump, and his supporters, against mostly D’s, but a lot of R’s as well.

I NEVER said it was D vs. R. You're making that up. It's normal, freedom loving Americans vs. the uniparty.

It's paper only voting vs. machine voting. It's establishment globalists vs. MAGA. It's freedom of speech advocates vs. folks who lecture people about their peaceful and patriotic protests. I could go on.

296 posted on 08/15/2023 7:36:05 AM PDT by FreeReign
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