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NYT: FAR RIGHT LIBERTARIAN WINS ARGENTINE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY
New York Times ^
| Aug 14
| By Jack Nicas, Natalie Alcoba and Lucía Cholakian Herrera
Posted on 08/14/2023 4:07:23 AM PDT by RandFan
A far-right libertarian candidate won Argentina’s open presidential primary election on Sunday, a surprising showing for a politician who wants to adopt the U.S. dollar as Argentina’s official currency and embraces comparisons to Donald Trump.
Javier Milei, 52, a congressman, economist and former television pundit, secured 30 percent of the vote with 96 percent of the ballots counted, making him the front-runner for the presidency in the fall general election.
Polls had suggested that Mr. Milei’s support was at about 20 percent, and political analysts had predicted that his radical policy proposals — including abolishing the country’s central bank — would prevent him from attracting many more voters.
But the vote on Sunday made clear that Mr. Milei now has a clear shot at leading Argentina, a South American nation of 46 million with some of the world’s largest reserves of oil, gas and lithium.
“I think these results are surprising even to him,” said Pablo Touzon, an Argentine political consultant. “Up until now, he was a protest candidate.”
Argentina’s general election in October, which could go to a November runoff, will now become a new test of the strength of the far right around the world. Although hard-right forces have gained new influence in several powerful nations in recent years....
Mr. Milei has pitched himself as the radical change that the collapsing Argentine economy needs, and he could be a shock to the system if elected. Besides his ideas about the currency and the central bank, he has proposed drastically lowering taxes and cutting public spending, including by charging people to use the public health care system; closing or privatizing all state-owned enterprises; and eliminating the health, education and environment ministries.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 202310; argentina; javiermilei; libertarians; milei
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To: Jim Noble
I don't know if monopolies can exist in a market economy short of government collusion, whether the railroads in the 19th Century or tech in the 21st Century. Cartels tend to corrupt government officials and pursue their own public policies, whether Zuckerberg in our day or Rockefeller a century ago. That is a weakness in a market economy system.
To: RandFan
Note from NYT editor to writers:
Not bad, but needs the term “far right” more.
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posted on
08/14/2023 5:42:59 AM PDT
by
Demiurge2
(Define your terms!)
To: RandFan
Milton Friedman famously said:
“Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon, in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output.” Maybe after 50 years of constant bouts of high and hyper-inflation Argentineans are waking up.
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posted on
08/14/2023 5:43:52 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Socialism as a thesis is a political plan. Liberty is its antithesis. And the cure is hard money.
Its that simple.
Socialism is impossible with hard money as your currency. America's chattering classes (and many on FR) think centrally-planning money is possible for politicians and bureaucrats, and that our smart, Ivy-educated central-planners at the Federal Reserve are perfectly capable of doing so.
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posted on
08/14/2023 5:47:59 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: PGR88
He wins. Then what? To get it to last he’ll need to go full Pinochet.
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posted on
08/14/2023 5:55:52 AM PDT
by
DIRTYSECRET
(e allowed )
To: RandFan
Besides his ideas about the currency and the central bank, he has proposed drastically lowering taxes and cutting public spending, including by charging people to use the public health care system; closing or privatizing all state-owned enterprises; and eliminating the health, education and environment ministries.Sounds great!
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posted on
08/14/2023 6:04:17 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
(In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
To: RandFan
A far-right libertarian candidate won...
don’t they have editors at the NYT?
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posted on
08/14/2023 6:21:08 AM PDT
by
teeman8r
(Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
To: RandFan
They will screw him over in the general. Votes don’t count for marxists
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posted on
08/14/2023 6:27:19 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATIST TRAITORS)
To: RandFan
I hope Melei wins! Argentine politics are extremely corrupted but if by some miracle he turns that around, Argentina would be a seriously great place to live.
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posted on
08/14/2023 6:30:36 AM PDT
by
liberalh8ter
(Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
To: RandFan
I hope they bring back helicopter tourism.
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posted on
08/14/2023 6:31:18 AM PDT
by
Sirius Lee
(They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
To: PGR88
-- "
Socialism is impossible with hard money as your currency. America's chattering classes (and many on FR) think centrally-planning money is possible for politicians and bureaucrats, and that our smart, Ivy-educated central-planners at the Federal Reserve are perfectly capable of doing so."
Thanks for the apt comment. Indeed, it is in your words "that simple."
To: Jim Noble
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Always had a good sense of humor, Jim.
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posted on
08/14/2023 7:26:19 AM PDT
by
L,TOWM
(An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
To: Wallace T.
The Pinochet dictatorship in Chile was, at worst, a benevolent dictatorship. By privatizing their social security system, they did a twofer:
- Eliminated a major source of government borrowing to be backed by IOUs
- Opened up a huge pool of private lending which turned Chile from a third world country to a first world country in a single generation.
If Argentina follows through with the Pinochet/Chicago Boy example they just might turn themselves into one of the richest countries in the world again. I believe they were #7 in 1901.
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posted on
08/14/2023 7:47:43 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
To: Sirius Lee
Ha! I see what you did there!
Pinochet's only problem with helicopter tourism is that only about 1800 far leftists disappeared.
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posted on
08/14/2023 7:52:48 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
To: DIRTYSECRET
He wins. Then what? To get it to last he’ll need to go full PinochetCorrect. One problem.
I do not believe that libertarians favor pushing people out of helicopters.
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posted on
08/14/2023 7:57:08 AM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(He who saves the nation breaks no law)
To: L,TOWM
HAHAHAHAHAHANot a joke.
Reagan's idiotic fascination with libertarianism set the table for the bolshevik revolution we are burdened with now.
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posted on
08/14/2023 8:00:28 AM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(He who saves the nation breaks no law)
To: RandFan
Yes Argentina is about to kick out socialism they had all these years repeated fail makes one hungry.
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posted on
08/14/2023 8:00:43 AM PDT
by
Vaduz
(....)
To: RandFan
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posted on
08/14/2023 8:01:06 AM PDT
by
popdonnelly
(All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
To: Wallace T.
Good post.
Once government regulates an industry the industry responds over time by capturing the regulators.
There are a variety of ways this happens from primitive bribery to revolving doors between the regulator and the industry to capture of major political parties.
In that way regulation forces industry to consolidate to gain the financial power to implement the regulatory capture.
Almost everyone commenting on this issue has a conflict of interest and cannot be trusted.
Government officials, industry, lobbyists all want to keep their gravy train going.
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posted on
08/14/2023 8:02:35 AM PDT
by
cgbg
(Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
To: Blueflag
NYT calls him a far right person.
Guess he is someone who is not a marxist.
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posted on
08/14/2023 8:04:24 AM PDT
by
Texas resident
(We are living through Barak's fundamental transformation)
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