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***BREAKING*** A jet has crashed into an apartment building during air show (Van Buren Township, Michigan)
Raws Alerts (Twitter) ^ | 08/13/2023

Posted on 08/13/2023 3:10:26 PM PDT by Drew68

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To: Drew68

Praying!


61 posted on 08/13/2023 4:45:36 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Restless

“Did the pilots not care where the plane might crash?” Apparently they did not.”

If they bailed due to a non-coverable stall/loss of flight controls, riding it to the ground would have made no difference.


62 posted on 08/13/2023 4:46:17 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Hieronymus

“A sign of the decline of American manhood.”

If they have no controls, the aircraft will go where it will whether they are onboard or not. If there is some control, pilots can try to avoid populated areas.


63 posted on 08/13/2023 4:47:03 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Be calm and act.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My house would be underneath their turnaround zone. There’s nothing more awesome than the scream of an F-16 in full throttle racing back to base some 3000 feet above your home.

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Yeah there is.

B1 - Wings back - Burners lit - directly overhead, about 45-50 feet up.

Shakes the ground when it goes over.

You know you have been “airplaned”.

More than once....


64 posted on 08/13/2023 4:48:31 PM PDT by dagunk
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To: Magic Fingers

Looks pretty clearly not to be a ‘non-coverable stall’ or a non-recoverable stall, for that matter. May have been loss of flight controls.


65 posted on 08/13/2023 4:51:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: SandwicheGuy
Obviously you are not a pilot. Why comment on something you know nothing about as it only adds confusion.

What are you talking about? Plane crashes can happen very quickly. It isn’t always like Hollywood where the pilots scream, “Mayday! Mayday!” For ten minutes before the plane crashes.

Somtimes the aircraft very quickly becomes a brick.

66 posted on 08/13/2023 4:52:19 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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To: packagingguy

The one where the marine pilots were doing low flyby and clipped the lift cables?


67 posted on 08/13/2023 4:52:56 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Drew68

My question: Who did the maintenance on the plane and were they using Chinese-manufactured parts?


68 posted on 08/13/2023 4:59:56 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (In my defense, I was left unsupervised.)
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To: 21twelve
Luckily: “The aircraft struck unoccupied vehicles in the apartment complex’s parking lot. No one at the apartment complex nor the air show was injured. The FAA is investigating the crash.”

Thank God. 🙏

69 posted on 08/13/2023 5:00:49 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: SandwicheGuy

Jumping to a conclusion is easy if one was not piloting the jet.


70 posted on 08/13/2023 5:03:44 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Hieronymus

We were part of a crowd of 90,000 who witnessed that sacrifice by Thunderbird pilot Capt. Nick Hauck at Hill AFB in 1981.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/17296757/david-lee-hauck


71 posted on 08/13/2023 5:08:00 PM PDT by Blueway
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To: Drew68
Fuel fire looks rather large and widespread beyond the distant treeline.

Seems like more involved than some cars in the parking lot.

Will await more details.


72 posted on 08/13/2023 5:12:10 PM PDT by henbane
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To: Magic Fingers

Thanks for making an intelligent, reasoned, well thought out, Cogent Comment.


73 posted on 08/13/2023 5:17:16 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (Wake me up when somebody tells the truth.)
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To: madison10
MiG crashed. Pilots ejected.

I’m pretty sure you got the order of events backward.

74 posted on 08/13/2023 5:19:36 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Drew68

Your comment was astute and likely correct.


75 posted on 08/13/2023 5:20:20 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: packagingguy

“Remember that crash in Italy when lots of people were killed? That was back in the 80’s.”

Wasn’t in Italy. That crash was at Ramstein AFB, Germany involving the Italian Frecce Tricolori on 28 August, 1988. 70 were killed, 500 injured (346 seriously).

My doctor grew up on Ramstein (her parents were both in the Air Force), she was there at the airshow that day, and that’s why she decided to become a doctor.


76 posted on 08/13/2023 5:31:00 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: jjotto
"The MIG-23 is from a Longview TX team"

I'm from Longview, tx

77 posted on 08/13/2023 5:31:06 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

https://www.news-journal.com/news/local/history-channel-visits-gregg-county-airport-to-feature-veteran-s-work-restoring-jets/article_0f843e60-092b-11ed-81a9-dfd4bfda754e.html


78 posted on 08/13/2023 5:37:28 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In 1984 I think, I was USAF at Norton AFB in San Bernadino. It was the first year the Thunderbirds had the F-16s. For the annual Norton air show, the first day the team did area familiarity flights, and put on a mini-airshow for active duty people who had to work the next day.

We were told to watch the ridge of the San Bernardino Mountains east of town. The Thunderbirds flew over the ridge and immediately dove to low level flight, and passed out of sight behind the city buildings.

After what seemed like five minutes later the aircraft roared into a pass-over of the AFB from the west, surprising everyone. They put on a great show, surpassed only by the brief flight of an SR-71.


79 posted on 08/13/2023 5:56:40 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Yo-Yo
Less than 80 miles from me, and I’ve gone to Thunder over Michigan many times.

It could have been you!!

~ Drew and Mike

80 posted on 08/13/2023 5:59:46 PM PDT by Moleman
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