Posted on 08/13/2023 5:09:30 AM PDT by marktwain
On April 27, 2023, Governor Jared S. Polis of Colorado signed Senate Bill 23-169 into law. The bill increased the required legal age of a person to purchase firearms from 18 to 21, preventing people under 21 from legally purchasing firearms.
Exceptions were provided for people in the United States armed forces or peace officers. The bill was challenged by the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners (RMGO) with two individuals plaintiffs in April, then amended in May. The RMGO and other plaintiffs asked for a preliminary injunction to prevent enforcement of the statute while the case is undergoing adjudication on July 7, 2023. Judge Philip A. Brimmer of the United States District Court for the District of Colorado issued the preliminary injunction on August 7, 2023. Judge Brimmer ruled the right to keep and bear arms necessarily included the right to acquire arms. He concluded there was no significant historical record of United States governments prohibiting 18-20-year-old people from acquiring arms. From the opinion:
Several courts have ruled that the right to keep arms necessarily includes a right to acquire arms. See, e.g., Teixeira v. County of Alameda, 873 F.3d 670, 677 (9th Cir. 2017) (“the core Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms for self-defense wouldn’t mean much without the ability to acquire arms” (quotations and citation omitted)); Ezell v. City of Chicago, 651 F.3d 684, 704 (7th Cir. 2011) (“The right to possess firearms for protection implies a corresponding right to acquire and maintain proficiency in their use.”); United States v. McNulty, — F. Supp. 3d. —-, 2023 WL 4826950, at *4 (D. Mass. July 27, 2023) (“The text of the Second Amendment itself also suggests that the right to ‘keep’ firearms necessarily
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Mass shootings started when God and patriotism were removed from the schools.
Correct. I purchased my first pistol (Colt Woodsman) at age 17, in a neighboring state, for cash across the counter. No ID required.
Call them mass murders, which they are.
No one seems to be considering we have an enormous increase in population, gun free zones, and masses of defenseless people over the last 80 years.
I've been getting some emails from RMGO and NAGR trying to "shame" me into donating, but I don't fall for that crap.
At this point, I'm okay with being a member of Rocky Mountain Gun Owners.
>Of course the “old enough to go to war” argument will be met with “the military trains soldiers how to and when to shoot”<
I would point out that the military trained Nidal Hasan and his fellow servicemen to shoot, then denied they could possess weapons. That didn’t work out very well.
EC
We were warned over fifty years ago..
DON’T CALIFORNICATE COLORADO!
Well, it has been. Now they are moving in on New Mexico.
The shooters are not using automatic guns. To purchase an automatic, you must be fingerprinted, pay a special class tax, and have it approved by the federal government. No, the shooters are either illegally modified guns or have really fast fingers and extra 30 round mags
Dudley Brown.
https://www.saf.org/dudley-browns-despicable-deception/
Thanks for that.
So, the leftists running Colorado believe citizens are mature enough to own a gun until they are 21 but does believe minors are mature to make a decision about having sex change?
1792; U.S. Congress passed the Militia Act.
Two Militia Acts, enacted by the 2nd United States Congress in 1792, provided for the organization of militia and empowered the president of the United States to take command of the state militia in times of imminent invasion or insurrection.
The president's authority had a life of two years and was invoked to suppress the Whiskey Rebellion in 1794. In 1795, Congress enacted the Militia Act of 1795, which mirrored the provisions of the expired 1792 Acts, except that the president's authority to call out the militias was made permanent. The Militia Act of 1862, enacted during the American Civil War, amended the conscription provision of the 1792 and 1795 acts, which originally applied to every "free able-bodied white male citizen" between the ages of 18 and 45, to allow African-Americans to serve in the militias. The new conscription provision applied to all males, regardless of race, between the ages of 18 and 54. The Militia Act of 1903 repealed and superseded the Militia Act of 1795 and established the United States National Guard as the body of the "organized militia" in the United States. {Emphasis added}
Existing CO law prohibits persons under 21 from purchasing handguns. I wonder if this decision will void that too?
“There were no prohibitions on teens acquiring firearms at the time of the ratification of the Second Amendment.”
1. What were the conditions in the country at the time of the second amendment? Same as today? No. Most teen males at the time of the second amendment were already acquiring adult repsonsibilities many young folks do not obtain today till beyond age 21.
2. Nothing in the second amendment bars states from having some regulation of firearms.
3. If we can ban liquor sales to age 21 and over, how is it we cannot ban firearms sales similarly?
The Fourteenth Amendment extends Second Amendment restrictions to state and local governments.
“Liquor sales are not protected by the Second Amendment.
The Fourteenth Amendment extends Second Amendment restrictions to state and local governments.”
The second amendment does not bar ALL state regulations of fire arms. From the beginning of the republic various states have had some limitations on fire arms, including some limitations on possession by minors. None of the laws were universal across all the states, but few were challenged as 2nd amendment violations.
I’ll bet I’ve read more history books than you ever thought existed. I’m not going to pee on my grandkids’ legs and tell them it’s raining. We’ve had the last two elections stolen from us. I’m not going to play along with the “where’s the evidence? game. The far left “media” has done a wonderful job covering it up. All this crap we are seeing about indicting people who dared to challenge the 2020 election is to scare the hell out of Americans so they won’t dare to ever challenge a stolen election again.
A couple of limitations during the early republic, and a couple after reconstruction.
Not a significant history of regulation.
“ Then the automatic guns came and mass shootings began. How do you explain that?”
“Automatic” firearms have existed since the late 18th century. They came into common use in the early 20th century. Prior to the passage of the NFA you could buy machine guns at the local hardware store.
So it’s clearly not the availability of automatic firearms that has caused the rise in so called miss shootings.
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