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‘My colleagues and I are still in shock.’ 32 majors marked for elimination at WVU
West Virginia Watch ^ | 8/11/23 | Amelia Knisely

Posted on 08/12/2023 6:19:32 PM PDT by CFW

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To: CFW

math is , lik, HARD dude!

I expect few mellennial/gen-z are up for that sort of rigor.
Reparations studies are more like it nd et them invited to the cool kids parties.


41 posted on 08/12/2023 7:38:33 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: LambSlave

I just don’t see how any university could survive without degree programs in collaborative piano and jazz pedagogy.


42 posted on 08/12/2023 7:40:18 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: CFW

“...It’s a shame to see Mathematics cut...”

I agree but I suspect it is is they have a large department and few students.


43 posted on 08/12/2023 7:45:41 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: CFW
and had expected more closures by now.

Covid was used to postpone reality. It's time to start paying the piper now.

44 posted on 08/12/2023 7:48:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Da Coyote
I wonder whether the Masters and Doctorate was in real math or...

Any math with i is imaginary.

The rest is real...

45 posted on 08/12/2023 7:55:20 PM PDT by null and void (It's 10 o'clock, does the president know where he is?)
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To: wrcase

If I wanted to study higher mathematics, WVU wouldn’t be at the top of my list. Maybe MIT, Stanford, Chicago, CMU might be places to start looking.


46 posted on 08/12/2023 7:56:50 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Fido969

Good to see colleges and universities dying regardless.


47 posted on 08/12/2023 8:09:10 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: doorgunner69

Nonsense….my grandchildren are in those generations and all did quite well in college .

Why would you think otherwise ?

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48 posted on 08/12/2023 8:11:36 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: CFW

Its also fundamentally wrong to get rid of languages. Thats a real loss.

It may be, as you say, that there are few takers for math and languages, but thats a bad sign on its own.


49 posted on 08/12/2023 8:22:12 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: EEGator

Worked in Morgantown years ago. Back then there were not 1, but 2 companies who’s entire business was to sell and deliver you a couch to burn after a wvu football win


50 posted on 08/12/2023 8:22:35 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: dfwgator

Duolingo works quite well for some people. My French is way better for it. But for a dedicated student real language courses are much better.


51 posted on 08/12/2023 8:27:42 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

I’m using it for Polish.


52 posted on 08/12/2023 8:31:26 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CFW

Programs to be discontinued, according to preliminary results:

MA Higher Education Administration
MA Multicategorical Special Education
PhD Higher Education
EdD Higher Education Administration
MM Collaborative Piano
MM Composition
MM Jazz Pedagogy
MFA Acting
PhD Occupational and Environmental Health Sciences
MLS Legal Studies
MPA Public Administration
MS Mathematics
PhD Mathematics
MFA Creative Writing
MS Energy Environments
PhD Resource Management
BSR Recreation, Parks, and Tourism Resources
BS Environmental and Community Planning
BSLA Landscape Architecture
MSLA Landscape Architecture
BA Agribusiness Management — This program will be discontinued and merged with the BS in Environmental and Natural Resource Economics resulting in a single new program and major.
BS Environmental and Energy Resource Management This program will be discontinued and merge with the BS in Energy Land Management resulting in a single new program and major.
BS Environmental and Natural Resource Economics — This program will be discontinued and merge with the BS in Agribusiness Management resulting in a single new program and major.

Additionally, several programs were marked for the development of a cooperative program, including:

BS Energy Land Management
BSF Forest Resource Management
BSF Wood Science and Technology

53 posted on 08/12/2023 8:37:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: CFW

China is not cutting its mathematics programs.

Today, a cashier could not count the 5 $20 bills I presented him. He had a high school “education”.

China wins. We self-destructed.


54 posted on 08/12/2023 9:46:20 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
Russia has as many STEM graduates as the USA. With half the population.


55 posted on 08/12/2023 10:00:40 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: CFW

Why are they removing Math graduate degree?


56 posted on 08/12/2023 10:04:39 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: CFW

Shucks i can’t get a doctorate in Bikini Inspection.


57 posted on 08/12/2023 10:31:56 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: CFW

For decades West Virgina benefited from Senator Robert Byrd’s ability to bring federal pork spending home to prop up the state’s government and economy. His replacement, Joe Manchin must not be pulling as many federal dollars to prop up the state university system.

If its business school is any good the University could employ the students and faculty in a practical hands on case study of how to evaluate and downsize a boated, inefficient organization. For example the university should look at its administrative overhead growth over the past 30-40 years. Likely it has grown two to three times the rate of student enrollment. It should be possible to quickly eliminate this excess non-teaching headcount with zero impact, and possibly an actual increase in the productivity of those remaining.

They should also look at utilization of space in buildings, particularly after the headcount reductions. Identify every classroom, meeting room and office utilization by hour. Adjust class and meeting schedules to fully load space in the most efficient buildings and then close and tear down or sell the surplus buildings. Schedule classes into the evenings, and on weekends to maximize use of buildings. Also look at selling or leasing dormitories to private contractors to exit the administrative and maintenance cost burden of renting living space to students.

Increase the teaching workload of the faculty. Universities are notorious for loading low paid adjunct faculty and grad students with heavy teaching loads while tenured professors teach 1-3 classes per semester. Require every faculty member to teach at least 4 courses per semester. Four courses per semester would mean the professor would be in the classroom only 12 hours of a 40 hour workweek. Still plenty of time remaining for research, writing , and consulting activities tenured professors prefer to teaching. Increasing the average teaching workload by 33%, from three to four classes per week, should allow a corresponding reduction in faculty headcount which would be a huge payroll savings as well as freeing up office space.

Online instruction can also dramatically reduce building space requirements and allow more students to be taught with fewer professors.

Like the federal bureaucracy, universities have become bloated and inefficient at delivering on their primary mission. Radical downsizing and focus on essentials will make them better at delivering education value for students and taxpayers.


58 posted on 08/13/2023 1:16:26 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: CFW

The math programs being cut are “master’s and doctorate in Mathematics”, not undergrad math.

There are lots of good jobs for math PhD’s — hedge funds have a lot. But those places will grab their people from Stanford or MIT, not WVU.


59 posted on 08/13/2023 1:27:57 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: bgill
Bet trade schools are booming.

Somewhat unrelated topic, but then why is it so hard to find quality trades people who actually do good work?

60 posted on 08/13/2023 2:04:48 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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