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To: Reily

They passed Obamacare knowing they would lose.

Lyndon Johnson passed civil rights knowing he would lose.

That’s the point !

They pass big things, and are willing to take the short term L because they are permanent changes.


79 posted on 08/11/2023 10:28:21 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright
There's been a socialist drumbeat for nationalized\socialized medicine since Truman! (Actually, a constant drumbeat for all socialism, e.g. Social Security! Socialism Lite bigger comes later!) There's been a constant selling of the idea that nationalized medicine works great in the UK, Europe, Canada, etc. Only ‘primitive’ America has this private inadequate, discriminatory medical care. There was constant legislation both federal and state nibbling at the edges to make medical care more equitable. Look how widespread the perception is of how successful Medicare and Medicaid is! Criticize it on this forum and watch out! The push back will be fierce.The push back on ZeroCare didn't succeed. The shell is still there, it will reemerge full bore when the time is right. The history is there of incrementally moving it forward.

Civil rights legislation is different but still an incremental legislative job. They took a real wrong and instead of just righting the initial wrong this could be another captive cause to advance an authoritarian agenda. They mounted an incremental PR campaign manipulating guilt to create a “privileged but controlled “ class. Unlike “privileged” classes of the past this one was very different. It was so much “privileged” but one that was controlled and manipulated. Manipulated by magnifying old wrongs & creating imaginary ones. All this was also done incrementally to create a permanent class of dependents that can be called out "politically" when needed. A modern version of the Roman Colosseum mob. It took 50-60years to go there. It didn't happen overnight as you imply.

83 posted on 08/11/2023 11:41:39 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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