Posted on 08/09/2023 6:31:12 AM PDT by hardspunned
MOSCOW, August 9. /TASS/. Poland is planning to form a joint Polish-Ukrainian military unit ostensibly for security, but with the ulterior motive of occupying western Ukraine, Russian Defense Minister Army General Sergey Shoigu said.
He drew attention to the dangers associated with Poland’s militarization. "there are plans to create a permanent so-called Polish-Ukrainian formation ostensibly to ensure the security of Western Ukraine, but in fact - for the subsequent occupation of this territory," he said.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian%E2%80%93Polish%E2%80%93Ukrainian_Brigade
"Galicia (/ɡəˈlɪʃ(i)ə/ gə-LISH(-ee)-ə; Polish: Galicja, IPA: [ɡaˈlit͡sja] (listen); Ukrainian: Галичина, romanized: Halychyna, IPA: [ɦɐlɪtʃɪˈnɑ]; Yiddish: גאַליציע, romanized: Galitsye) is a historical and geographic region spanning what is now southeastern Poland and western Ukraine, long part of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. It covers much of the other historic regions of Red Ruthenia (centered on Lviv) and Lesser Poland (centered on Kraków)." More....
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe)
I suspect all are angling for things when the whole mess is more or less finished. Poland wants something rather tangible....
As Freepers on different sides have been arguing the "borders" issue, one thing is certain. Nothing is certain.
Ukraine, i.e. the Zelensky government, wants to draw in all of NATO. Poland, i.e. this and a number of previous administrations, very likely wants to cut away some territory for its "greater Poland" for historical reasons.
This should be interesting....
Russia has been threatening Poland all along, they are provoking them with Wagner incursions into Polish Airspace almost daily now.
Looks like Russia needs provocation to perform full mobilization because they are not satisfied with the current war situation. Putin needs to ‘sell’ something to the Russian people.
Just look at the aftermath of WWI in the area alone (before the real killing began). Russian Civil War, Uke civil wars, Polish civil wars, Polish Uke War, Polish Russian War, Russian Uke Wars, Polish Lithuanian War, Russian Lithuanian War, Kiev Bolsheviks, etc., etc., all fighting for land. Yeah, let’s go dive headfirst into that action.
The Allies really botched up the breakup of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, after WWI.
I’ve said since July of ‘22, WWIII starts along the Polish border. There’s no escalatory wiggle room left. We are down to the last very few escalations.
Poland beat Russia in the Soviet-Polish war of 1918-21. And, has been threatened by Putin, who claims it is part of Russia by reason of prior conquest. Poland is now spending 4 percent of GDP on military (even a higher percentage than the U.S. spends), and has formed a Territorial Defense Force (following Ukraine’s example).
None of this means Poland or Poland + can invade Russia. The last time Russia was defeated by invasion was before there was Russia, by the Mongols. Just ask King Charles of Sweden, Napoleon or Hitler about invading Russia. Russia loses wars at the border, and then collapses. This happened, partially, after its war with Japan, and, completely, after WWI, and its war in Afghanistan.
Yeah and we plan to invade and occupy part of England. Not.
This is pure propaganda.
But apparently effective for those who somehow can be distracted from the fact that only Russia (with the help of a few unsavory allies), has invaded Ukraine.
Lenin blamed Stalin for that loss. One of the reasons Stalin was so anxious to get Poland "back".
Redmen you are a smart fella. Hope you’re right.
We shall certainly see. Give it 90 days and see what has happened as things continue to spiral completely out of control.
Forget all that business. Just where the heck is the Curzon Line anyway?
I’m my 13 year old granddaughter’s home school history teacher. We just finished Eastern/Central European history 1917-1939. I don’t know how long ago you studied that history, but I’d forgotten just how widespread the bloody insanity was. It’s pretty convenient in that when we get to the Russia/NATO Conflict 2022-, she’ll be able to formulate her own informed opinion.
All of the Russian collapses that happened did not make Russia any weaker, only more dangerous. After the despicable Bolshevik Marxist revolution post WW1 I, the Russians ended up controlling half of Europe after WW II, a mere, 30 years later.
The Western provocations leading to the Ukraine War will be viewed as one of the biggest mistakes the West, led by America, has ever made. But hey, our garbage ruling class made a lot of money for themselves and the cheap Ukrainian whores created by this mess keeps them happy.
Good job. I’ve always believed there is no better way to truly understand something than to try to teach it to someone else.
I found high school senior level textbooks copyright 1966. She’s getting the same basic course I did in 1970. After reading some posters’ thoughts on Ukraine it’s pretty easy to tell they slept through high school history class.
Why should I, an American, care? We did not ratify the Treaty of Versailles, but made a separate peace with the defeated powers. It is infantile Russians who think that past conquests are primary. We American think the just powers of government come from the consent of the governed.
losing wars makes Russia dangerous
No. It’s vodka that makes Russia dangerous.
The biggest mistake America ever made was provoking Russia.
No. The biggest mistake we made was not finding a peaceful way to end slavery. Anybody who wasn’t a drunk Russian would know that.
Are you talking about America?!? Land of stolen elections, homo/trans tyranny, complete government control of the press, Covid, culture countered and destroyed, green economy killing, billion dollar DC oligarchs, DC Gulag, our only hope, DJT, facing centuries in federal prison, you were disenfranchised, I was disenfranchised. You got some kinda nerve to talk such BS.
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