On this, he is correct. Those saying otherwise are either lying, ignorant, or stupid. Those are the only choices. The Vice President has zero power or authority in the Constitution, statutes governing the counts, or congressional rules to unilaterally block certification. Even if he could have made a such a ruling on his own motion in the proceedings (which he could not), the ruling could have merely been appealed for a full vote and easily blocked. It is embarrassing that this stupid and ridiculous discussion continues to be had as though the Vice President has any unilateral or plenary power to do anything. The mechanism does not exist under any articles in the Constitution, constitutional amendments, laws, or congressional rules. None.
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This “case” (which is actually not one) is Constitutional science fiction.
The “election” alleged to be fraudulent has no Constitutional existence. The 50 State Legislatures which appoint 535 Electors (and Congress, which appoints 3) have all adopted the custom of having people voting as the means by which the appointments are normally made, but this creates 51 elections, not one.
Those 51 elections occur at the direction of, and are subservient to, 50 legislatures and Congress. The States unwisely granted Congress 3 Electors by ratifying the XXIII Amendment in 1960, so Congress does have supervisory power OVER THOSE THREE, but not otherwise.
There is only one Presidential election in the Constitution, it takes place in December, there are 538 voters, and in December 2020 Biden got 306 of them and was elected President.
No State Legislature objected that its Electors were not the ones they had appointed. No State Legislature even convened to consider the matter. In the case of Pennsylvania, the Legislature fled to avoid considering the matter.
It has never been alleged that a single one of the 306 votes for Biden/Harris was a forgery, that the Electors who casted them were impersonating someone else, or that the Legislatures had secretly appointed other Electors.
There is zero space for an allegation of fraud in the Constitutional Presidential election of December 14, 2020.
As far as the 51 elections which occurred on November 3, 2020, they may very well have been rife with fraud, but since the appointment power of the 50 State Legislatures (535) and Congress (3) is plenary, that’s a problem for those legislatures to deal with should they choose to do so.
I think what you say makes sense. 50 individual state election officials had certified their election results. They certified their results through the laws and procedures of their states.
Even if Pence had sent votes back to the states, having rejected their electoral votes, the states may well have reconfirmed that these electoral votes are indeed the correct authorized electoral votes. Then we would have been back to square one.
Several state legislatures sent their own (Republican) electors, due to disputed election results. As you say, the Constitution gives state legislatures that right. Pence double-crossed the nation by ignoring them.
*YOU* don't get to tell the rest of us that your opinion is a fact. We can read it for ourselves and we can interpret it in light of what sort of men the founders were in 1787, and the one thing that we are certain of is they had honor and would not participate in a corrupt process.
Pence did the absolutely worst thing he could have done. Blowing up the whole proceeding and putting a smear and a taint on Biden would have been far preferable to him giving Bitchden the legitimacy he provided.
It was important to the nation to view Bitchden as *ILLEGITIMATE*. Even if he was ultimately made "president", the nation *NEEDED* to see him as a corrupt, illegitimate, illegal president.
The entire nation needed to *HATE* that man and see him as the product of corruption.