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Armed woman shoots road rage 'aggressor' trying to force his way into her car: DA
Fox News ^ | August 7, 2023 | Emma Colton

Posted on 08/07/2023 11:21:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

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Sounds like a Good News story so far.
1 posted on 08/07/2023 11:21:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Steven was like a McLamb to the slaughter....


2 posted on 08/07/2023 11:25:03 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Navy Patriot

a few years ago there was a court case here in Kentucky. A rundown...

A guy, we’ll call “Bill” instigates a road rage incident and, as the other guy, we’ll call “frank”, gets off the freeway and into a parking lot. Bill follows frank into the parking lot. Frank pulls a baseball bat out of his car and starts smashing the windows and window posts on Bill’s car. Bill pulls out his gun and shoots frank dead.

He was tried for murder and found not guilty because it was legal self defense. He may have started the road rage incident, but Frank is the one that threatened serous bodily harm to Bill, which, under Kentucky law, gives Bill the right to defend himself with deadly force.

Ramp it op with people at your peril.


3 posted on 08/07/2023 11:25:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Don’t touch my car I’ve got something waiting for you


4 posted on 08/07/2023 11:26:09 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: Navy Patriot

Sounds like a righteous act of self defense.


5 posted on 08/07/2023 11:26:23 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: Navy Patriot
Just finished watching the road rage show: Beef.

Stupid show, but curiosity won out over good taste. Stange show.

6 posted on 08/07/2023 11:29:53 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ( Biden-Fetterman in ‘24: It's a no brainer)
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To: Navy Patriot

She did the right thing. He lost his right to live the moment he tried to force his way into the car.


7 posted on 08/07/2023 11:30:01 AM PDT by I want the USA back (One's sex is determined by one's chromosomes. No one has the ability to change one's chromosomes.)
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To: NWFree

Bumper sticker from a while ago:

Keep Honking
I’m Reloading


8 posted on 08/07/2023 11:32:25 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: I want the USA back

Agree I would have shot him in a heartbeat. Crime is terrible in Atlanta. We go nowhere unarmed.


9 posted on 08/07/2023 11:37:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Navy Patriot

I’m 58 with a bad heart and faltering muscle mass, my days of going toe to toe with a stranger are long behind me now.

Screw it, the window breaks or the door opens and you’re being aggressive I know a few good attorneys and I’m not even hesitating if you see the gun and don’t immediately retreat.


10 posted on 08/07/2023 11:45:18 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Navy Patriot

Sounds like a case of FAFO.


11 posted on 08/07/2023 11:56:35 AM PDT by wetgundog
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To: Abathar; All

One still must be aware of how the courts see the law. in your state

I have read of cases wsahere there was absolutely no doubt that the shooter was in serious danger, yet the court convicted him.

Why? Because the judge and prosecutor convinced the jury that all the shooter had to do was drive away. One that I remember said that the shooter’s car was the most powerful weapon on the scene and that he should have driven away.

So if your exit is obstructed in any way. you have an excellent defense. On the other hand if you are on the shoulder of the highway with nothing in front of your car, you probably would have a problem in many states....unless you were looking down the barrel of the bad guy’s gun and trying to leave would be fatal.

So it is not clear in many cases and every carrier should go through the many possible scenarios before so as to be mentally prepared to make correct decisions.


12 posted on 08/07/2023 12:03:43 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the government can not make worse.)
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To: Navy Patriot

What a stupid reason to die.


13 posted on 08/07/2023 12:05:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Navy Patriot

Stupid people die in stupid ways.


14 posted on 08/07/2023 12:18:24 PM PDT by Dave911
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That’s especially true in a “duty to retreat” state, but one could argue that she already did retreat by leaving the roadway and seeking a more populated setting like the parking lot.

In any event, reads like a classic case of self defense.


15 posted on 08/07/2023 12:24:30 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

In “duty to retreat” states you need a Trunk Monkey to take out the aggressor.


16 posted on 08/07/2023 12:29:36 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I probably shouldn’t admit it but up here in Marietta, I’m still not armed on the streets.


17 posted on 08/07/2023 12:29:42 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Navy Patriot
“...........”provision in our law is not an invitation to vigilante justice, but it does allow when someone has a responsible fear for imminent death or bodily injury that you're allowed to protect yourself,”

As a concealed carry holder, the above is the key concept everyone with a firearm needs to understand.

Most of the self-defense and use of deadly force laws are hugely limited, technical and have little to do with justice.

They are all about what a “reasonable person” would do, “proportional” response, and “stopping the moment the criminal is no longer an immediate threat.” Those definitions are often created on a case by case basis upon the skill of the attorneys and upon the bias of the jury members. Any deviation of this can get you arrested for “brandishing” a weapon, “reckless endangerment” and a host of other criminal charges.

Depending on the jurisdiction, any time a concealed carry weapon is drawn, one should expect to be arrested, go on trial, and pray that you are not convicted of a crime. If you are not, you are lucky.

The legal system is no longer a justice system, but one of technicalities.

18 posted on 08/07/2023 12:39:56 PM PDT by Robert357
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We’re right on the Gwinnett/Dekalb line in Lilburn. The crime is getting terrible. We spend a lot of time at our rural compound and hope to move there soon.


19 posted on 08/07/2023 12:45:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Navy Patriot

Wow! Good for her for both being armed and being aware of her surroundings and the threat the thug posed to her.

Also, good for her in living in NC where the D.A. recognizes a person’s right to self-defense. In Oregon, NY, California, and so many other state, she would be looking at a long prison sentence.


20 posted on 08/07/2023 12:49:42 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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