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To: mass55th

“Yeah, and they were labeled dykes.”

Well, aren’t YOU broadbrushing!

“Back in the 60’s, if you were a female and joined the military you were a lesbian...”

Again, you jump to conclusions and rush to judgment, critical failures for one who claims to be a historian.

“I know that for a fact, because one of the girls I graduated with in 1965 joined the military, and the scoop back then was she was a dyke.”

Anecdotal. And if you were any kind of historian you’d know that anecdotes are merely isolated illustrations, and are not descriptive of the whole.

“Please don’t try to change the cultural stereotypes from that time.”

You just sank your own argument, because anecdote is the foundation of stereotype.

“You know they existed.”

Of course they existed; they have always existed. But they were and are the exception when compared to the whole.

As for your comment about the Chinese lab in California, that is very much a threat from a foreign country: A hostile foreign government has infiltrated our own country and is doing all kinds of nefarious things. In other words, that is the result of a threat from abroad. That the threat is now here does not make it a home-grown threat.

You are too emotional to be an objective student of history; your emotionalism condemns your scholarship. But I’m glad you at least study the subject.


134 posted on 08/05/2023 7:32:03 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
"Well, aren’t YOU broadbrushing! Again, you jump to conclusions and rush to judgment, critical failures for one who claims to be a historian."

As a so-called historian, you're pretty judgmental, and putting words in my mouth that I never said. Show me my quote where I said I, personally believed that all women who joined the military in the '60's were dykes. I said it was the culture of the time.

“Please don’t try to change the cultural stereotypes from that time.”

Did you grow up in the inner-city of Rochester, New York? If not, then you have no idea what the stereotypes were there, or in the high schools in the 50's and 60's. And as a so-called historian, you are making a statement based on your own experience, wherever it was that you lived. A real person interested in history would study the various regions of the country, and research the materials available from those periods...newspapers on microfilm, documents, crime statistics, death rates, interview actual people who lived in those times, straight, gay, black, white, etc...not just base their opinion on their own small, little world as you have.

"Of course they existed; they have always existed."

There were four of us kids in our family. My second oldest sister who was five years older than me was gay, and it was never a problem between us. She was very self-conscious of her sexuality, and had a bigger problem with it, than any of us. And that's because of the stereotyping back then. She went out of her way to make sure she didn't look gay, wore feminine clothing all the time, dresses, high heels, etc. Always looked like a lady. And she hated the way the gay culture had turned into a side show...didn't believe in gay marriage. The one thing she said to me as she was dying of cancer was that she was sorry she had never had any kids. I was with her when she drew her last breath, and made sure she got the burial she asked for. But gee, what would I know about how a gay person feels, because ought-six says it didn't happen that way in the 50's and 60's

"A hostile foreign government has infiltrated our own country..."

No $hit Sherlock. It didn't just happen. They've been here for a long time, even before the Clintons took office, and exchanged money for missile secrets. The question is, what has been done about it? Nothing. Biden's DOJ has been lenient on Chinese Nationalists found conducting espionage here. So how is fighting a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine preventing that hostile foreign government from infiltrating here, over and over? It obviously isn't since they pop up all the time. The Chi-coms have been caught here helping themselves to our classified secrets, and our technology, repeatedly, yet it continues, and is allowed to continue, and even granted immunity from the DOJ. LOL!! The Chi-coms are controlling The White House and everything that happens here, and you're screaming: Russia, Russia, Russia. That's hilarious.

"That the threat is now here does not make it a home-grown threat."

Your use of the term "home-grown threat" makes you sound like Christopher Wray, who claimed white supremacists are the biggest home grown threat to this country. Sorry, but the biggest home grown threat are the politicians who are compromising the security of this country, and the safety of the American people through their negligence, their stupidity, and their nefarious deals with our enemies. Our southern border is wide open. We have no idea who is coming over the border, what diseases they have, what crimes they have committed in the countries they came from, or along the way. You sound very naive when it comes to that. It is home grown when you allow it to be home grown, by opening your borders to anyone and everything. When you give Chinese nationals the ability to come here, organize, set up labs, steal intelligence, and continue to let them get away with it. That's home grown, because you provide the means for it to happen, over and over. You are an aider and abettor. I think you have blinders on.

"You are too emotional to be an objective student of history"

LOL!! That's a pretty arrogant, and ignorant comment. Obviously you aren't emotional, or astute enough to be an objective student of history. You need emotion to study history, otherwise, how can you understand it, analyze it, and realize that the past applies to today? When you fail to look at past history, and see it being repeated in this day and time, then you're not an historian. I'd prefer an author, or a professor who was passionate about history, because then you'd know they've fully immersed themselves into the subject they are teaching you, and would go to any length necessary to find as much as they could on the topic. History isn't just about reading books. You can't just turn a page and experience history as it was and is. It takes more than that. It takes physical research. Historians find trails to pursue as their research grows. They will turn over one stone of history only to have it lead them to another and another. And a real historian follows those stones wherever it leads them. It sounds to me like you got to one stone, and never bothered to turn over any of the rest.

136 posted on 08/05/2023 11:53:44 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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