[buckalfa]

But if you want the truth of the math, you can’t cut spending. Gov’t spending is all that drives the economy now. The G variable is explicitly in the GDP equation. Cut it, you cut GDP. Cut GDP and the debt/GDP ratio explodes — even worse than it is.

Truth hurts. I did a math exercise on the government cash equivalent retirement benefits I receive over and above my individual and former employer contributions. In eight years I have scored $500K more in benefits than taxes were ever paid in my behalf. I do not know if I should be ashamed or brag. That said, there are no fiscal conservatives in the GOP, including Trump.

[Owen]

I probably didn’t make my point because it is the most difficult to grasp.

The substance from nothingness is money. It’s not physics. It’s not measurable laws. It’s laws of supply and demand, trying to make a substance created on a whim from nothingness conform to a “law”. It is absurd to expect it.

This is why all the isms are meaningless.

We use money. This leads guys to presume it must mean something.

But it can’t. It came from nothingness on a whim.

Taxes and spending cannot be in any way a measure of conservatism — which, btw, is another ism.