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New York commercial/office buildings are dead. You don't have that foot traffic anymore as you did before COVID.
1 posted on 07/31/2023 7:44:10 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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Collateral damage. Trump had to be got rid of. Too bad for those investors, but I’m guessing most of them were cheering when PDJT went down.


2 posted on 07/31/2023 7:50:09 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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Commercial real estate everywhere is in a parlous state.


3 posted on 07/31/2023 7:50:47 PM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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That’s a shame.


4 posted on 07/31/2023 7:52:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Surprised there is enough equity to make it worthwhile for the mezzanine lender.


7 posted on 07/31/2023 7:58:04 PM PDT by PAR35
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I know of one office tower that was taken over by homeless people. They painted graffiti inside and out.


8 posted on 07/31/2023 8:03:56 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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I wonder if its dawning on them yet that we’re not going back to the office. Ever.


10 posted on 07/31/2023 8:11:01 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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No one wants to answer the question, “what will keep these cities from the same path as cities such as Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, Oakland, etc.?”


16 posted on 07/31/2023 8:36:53 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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The is a PLETHORA of illegal immigrant foot traffic!


17 posted on 07/31/2023 8:40:46 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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LOL
Are these the office buildings that are too big to fail?
A matter of national security that they are bailed out?
Hope you enjoy some late night gallows humor.


19 posted on 07/31/2023 9:08:01 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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This is happening in the Bay Area and Los Angeles also. Its a symptom of a greater problem. Our corporate infrastructure is crumbling.


20 posted on 07/31/2023 9:29:33 PM PDT by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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What’s Oaktree going to do with an office tower?
Or any lender for that matter?

Sell it to the Chinese?


22 posted on 08/01/2023 2:34:22 AM PDT by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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I used to work in that building many years ago.


26 posted on 08/01/2023 4:48:36 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party - Dumbing Down America Since 1965.)
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Both Dallas and Fort Worth figured out in the 1990s that downtown office space was simply not working out to be as valuable and needed as before. More and more suburbs of the DFW area were building mini-office centers, so people could still work for XYZ corporation, but didn’t need to drive an hour into downtown Dallas/Fort Worth to complete their work. Digital networks, remote work capabilities, and various other contributions have made the need for one huge building or sprawling facility obsolete.

Both Dallas and Fort Worth originally had charters and city zoning ordinances which made these buildings either commercial, residential, or industrial and they could not be used for anything else. But, in the late 90s with buildings sitting empty, they changed their tune when younger up-and-comers didn’t want to live on the family farm or in the suburbs, but there were not enough residential spaces in the DFW downtown areas. So, they changed their zoning to allow multi-use buildings (Floors 1 & 2, or even as high as 4, are commercial, the rest are residential)...downtown living EXPLODED. Which spurred a great deal of additional office space growth.

I think with the current mindset of both the employers and employees, many of these new office buildings are going to become multi-use facilities, like the OLD downtown office towers.

Unless your job requires physical attendance (i.e., construction, doctor, police, manufacturing, etc.), most people want to work from home and remove the daily commute. COVID showed that it can be done and be done successfully.

Until these cities realize there are some who want to live downtown (like the New York City life but in Dallas, or Houston, or Albuquerque, etc.), they will continue to falter and THEN they may become the next Detroit, Philadelphia, or name another failing city that keeps a tight control on zoning requirements.


28 posted on 08/01/2023 6:12:32 AM PDT by ExTxMarine
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I’m betting that Trump company is thinking of buying it at the bottom.


29 posted on 08/01/2023 8:25:54 AM PDT by Rappini (Hope means coming in second.)
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