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We Need a Limited Military Draft
Military.com ^ | 29 Jul 2023 | Joe Plenzler

Posted on 07/30/2023 10:41:05 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

It's time to change how our country fills the ranks of our military.

Since 1775, our nation has used a combination of volunteers and draftees to meet our national defense personnel needs, especially in times of crisis.

Today, the military needs only about 160,000 youth from an eligible population of 30 million to meet its recruitment needs. But after two decades of war -- both of which ended unsuccessfully -- and low unemployment, many experts believe the all-volunteer force has reached a breaking point. And American confidence in its military is at a low.

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


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KEYWORDS: draft; recruitment
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To: Gen.Blather
During the vietnam was we had a limited draft. Everybody and his privileged brother got deferments. Finally, there were so many that MacNamara had what was called "MacNamara's Hundred Thousand".

The standards were dropped so that people with lower scores were drafted. Some extended a year to make it 3 so they could get into the MOS school of their choice.

It was a disaster.

81 posted on 07/30/2023 12:12:39 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: MinorityRepublican
I loved the old free USA, but it's never coming back. The US military is an enemy to peace and freedom everywhere in the world. It's time to stop pretending "we" can "fix" it.

This is the outfit that will come to kill you and your family.

82 posted on 07/30/2023 12:21:57 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: TokarevM57
I Liked The Navy I Served In And It No Longer Exists

*** I liked standing on the bridge wing at sunrise with salt spray in my face and clean ocean winds whipping in from the four quarters of the globe - - the ship beneath me feeling like a living thing as her engines drove her swiftly through the sea.

*** I liked the sounds of the Navy - the piercing trill of the boatswains pipe, the syncopated clangor of the ship's bell on the quarterdeck, the harsh squawk of the 1MC, and the strong language and laughter of sailors at work.

*** I liked Navy vessels -- nervous darting destroyers, plodding fleet auxiliaries and amphibs, sleek submarines and steady solid aircraft carriers.

*** I liked the proud names of Navy ships: Midway, Lexington, Saratoga, Coral Sea, Antietam, Valley Forge - - memorials of great battles won and tribulations overcome.

*** I liked the lean angular names of Navy "tin-cans" and escorts - - Barney, Dahlgren, Mullinix, McCloy, Damato, Leftwich, Mills - - mementos of heroes who went before us. And the others - - San Jose, San Diego, Los Angeles, St. Paul, Chicago - - named for our cities.

*** I liked the tempo of a Navy band blaring through the topside speakers as we pulled away from the oiler after refueling at sea.

*** I liked liberty call and the spicy scent of a foreign port.

*** I even liked the never-ending paperwork and all hands working parties as my ship filled herself with the multitude of supplies, both mundane and to cut ties to the land and carry out her mission anywhere on the globe where there was water to float her.

*** I liked sailors, officers, and enlisted men from all parts of the land, farms of the Midwest, small towns of New England, from the cities, the mountains and the prairies, from all walks of life. I trusted and depended on them as they trusted and depended on me - for professional competence, for comradeship, for strength and courage. In a word, they were "shipmates"; then and forever.

*** I liked the surge of adventure in my heart, when the word was passed: "Now set the special sea and anchor detail - all hands to quarters for leaving port," and I liked the infectious thrill of sighting home again, with the waving hands of welcome from family and friends waiting pier side.

*** The work was hard and dangerous; the going rough at times; the parting from loved ones painful, but the companionship of robust Navy laughter, the "all for one and one for all" philosophy of the sea was ever present.

*** I liked the serenity of the sea after a day of hard ship's work, as flying fish flitted across the wave tops and sunset gave way to night.

*** I liked the feel of the Navy in darkness - the masthead and range lights, the red and green navigation lights and stern light, the pulsating phosphorescence of radar repeaters - they cut through the dusk and joined with the mirror of stars overhead. And I liked drifting off to sleep lulled by the myriad noises large and small that told me that my ship was alive and well, and that my shipmates on watch would keep me safe.

*** I liked quiet midwatches with the aroma of strong coffee -- the lifeblood of the Navy permeating everywhere.

*** And I liked hectic watches when the exacting minuet of haze-gray shapes racing at flank speed kept all hands on a razor edge of alertness.

*** I liked the sudden electricity of "General quarters, general quarters, all hands man your battle stations," followed by the hurried clamor of running feet on ladders and the resounding thump of watertight doors as the ship transformed herself in a few brief seconds from a peaceful workplace to a weapon of war -- ready for anything.

*** And I liked the sight of space-age equipment manned by youngsters clad in dungarees and sound-powered phones that their grandfathers would still recognize. *** I liked the traditions of the Navy and the men and women who made them. I liked the proud names of Navy heroes: Halsey, Nimitz, Perry, Farragut, John Paul Jones, and Burke. A sailor could find much in the Navy: comrades-in-arms, pride in self and country, mastery of the seaman's trade. An adolescent could find adulthood.

*** In years to come, when sailors are home from the sea, they will still remember with fondness and respect the ocean in all its moods - the impossible shimmering mirror calm and the storm-tossed green water surging over the bow. And then there will come again a faint whiff of stack gas, a faint echo of engine and rudder orders, a vision of the bright bunting of signal flags snapping at the yardarm, a refrain of hearty laughter in the wardroom and chief's quarters and mess decks.

*** Gone ashore for good they will grow wistful about their Navy days, when the seas belonged to them and a new port of call was ever over the horizon.

*** Remembering this, they will stand taller and say, "I WAS A SAILOR ONCE AND

WOULD DO IT AGAIN IN THE NAVY IN WHICH I SERVED."

83 posted on 07/30/2023 12:24:26 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: MinorityRepublican

When they say “limited”, I suspect they really mean limited to conservative states and white males only. They don’t plan to send the trans-GIBLETS into harm’s way.


84 posted on 07/30/2023 12:25:31 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: Parmy

“”MacNamara’s Hundred Thousand”.”

The actual name was “project one hundred thousand.” Judges were told to offer enlistment instead of prison. My sister was an agent in the OSI. She said they had an office with lawyers dedicated solely to prosecuting the crimes of people from that project. She reckoned the overall cost of the project was a high percentage of each service’s police and legal budget. Most of these people did exactly the same crimes they’d done in civilian life, theft, fraud, rape, etc.


85 posted on 07/30/2023 12:27:34 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: MinorityRepublican

IF we are going to have a draft, lets first agree on the qualification / criteria for that draft.

1) Veterans that have previously served are excluded as well as those already in the reserves or in an ROTC program
2) The “first” tier would be those that received education grants for college
3) The second tier would be students that received student loans but have not yet paid off those loans
4) The third tier would be those that are behind on their taxes.

5) Now we get to the general population ....


86 posted on 07/30/2023 12:31:15 PM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: MinorityRepublican; Right_Wing_Madman; Alberta's Child; Gen.Blather; E. Pluribus Unum; DPMD
World Magazine had an article lamenting the state of military recruitment and I sent the below letter in response. I'll see if they meet the current definition of "woke".

Military recruitment has embraced a world where the American Psychiatric Association says nearly all sexual interests are normal. Sexual disorders people contended against have been transformed into personal identities to celebrate, and DOD asserts those individuals are welcome to serve in the most rigorous, traumatic, and lethal of environments.

The next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says, “the ideals of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution that I’ve sworn my adult life to support and defend’ have not always delivered ‘liberty and equality’ to all.” However, he can support social Marxism, which has never delivered spiritual or material prosperity to anyone. The injection of Critical Race Theory by DOD into the military results in policies discouraging those who traditionally chose military service.

The Armed Forces as a meritocracy has ceased to exist and the uniforms have transformed into costumes.

87 posted on 07/30/2023 12:31:51 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Bullcrap. Violates the 14th amendment against involuntary servitude. And taking America’s kids at gunpoint to hand them over to a pack of rabid racist homo-tranny America hating generals?

Nope...


88 posted on 07/30/2023 12:32:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

Military draft after the Civil War is illegal.


89 posted on 07/30/2023 12:33:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Military draft after the Civil War is illegal.

Didn't stop FDR.

90 posted on 07/30/2023 12:35:22 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yeah, the Infantry really doesn’t need much significant training or skill. /s


91 posted on 07/30/2023 12:41:11 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: dfwgator

No draft again ever.


92 posted on 07/30/2023 12:41:34 PM PDT by Clarancebeaks
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To: Vermont Lt

They will turn the military into the biggest social program of them all.


93 posted on 07/30/2023 12:44:09 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Persevero
You will be forcing us under the rule of homosexual commanders.

"SQUAD! CAMP IT....UP!"

94 posted on 07/30/2023 12:45:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

A Department of Defense memo has been reportedly leaked that shows the complete list of perks that “transgender” persons now receive while in uniform.

The most shocking detail revealed, is that “trans” soldiers are now allowed to skip deployments indefinitely!

The memo breaks these perks down into four broad categories.

First, tax-payer funded “affirmation” treatments to include: speech/voice therapy to sound like the opposite sex, hormone therapy, laser hair removal, surgery to feminize a male voice, facial contouring, body contouring, breast/chest surgery, genital mutilation surgery, and physiological counseling.

Wow, don’t they just sound like model soldiers?

Secondly, these “trans soldiers” are exempted from grooming and uniform standards – they are allowed to grow their hair and wear whatever clothing they want too.

Thirdly, they are now exempted from physical fitness standards – for life!

All they have to do is renew their exemption every six months.

And finally, they are considered “non-deployable” for up to 300 days after taking hormone therapy.

Since hormone therapy really never ends for someone violating their natural biology, these 300-day skips will likely never end.

So we’ve got “soldiers” who don’t have to conform to uniform standards, maintain physical fitness, who require constant medical care, and don’t have to ever deploy overseas.

How are these people even considered soldiers?

Military service is about sacrificing for the good of the nation.

But under Obama and Biden, it has been transformed into something that sacrifices the well-being of the nation in order to make a few, unique individuals happy.

No longer are military standards set high so that only the best can join – a necessary requirement to maintain a strong fighting force.

Now, standards are lowered or erased to make it easier for anyone to join who wants too.

By any sane standard, being “trans” should disqualify someone from military service entirely.

Even if they do not pursue any physical alterations, they are still mentally incapacitated.

But when they do “medically transition” they corrupt their bodies to the point where they can no longer physically function as soldiers.

A human body that has “transitioned” is weakened, prone to disease and breakdowns.

These people cannot function in the field.

They require constant medical care.

At least the DOD has essentially realized these individuals are practically useless, so they won’t even try to deploy them overseas.

But this luxury treatment for “trans” in uniform will waste great amounts of the defense budget that is needed to arm actual, real soldiers.

And these policies will only incentivize more soldiers in uniform to go “trans” to get out of the hard part of soldiering.

When these soldiers choose to pursue “trans” identities in uniform, they are violating their oaths to protect this country.

They are choosing to put their own greed before the welfare of the American people.

And they expect us to pay for every bit of it.

President Trump rightly banned all “transgender” in the military, but Biden put them back in place on day one.

Biden’s military policies are destructive and divisive to our armed forces.

Any soldier, sailor, airman or marine who disagrees with these policies is drummed right out of the service – especially Christians.

Perhaps it’s time for Congress to take serious action to reign in the Defense Department’s embrace of the Homosexual Agenda?

I’m including a video here of Chloe Cole – whom I just recently interviewed – testifying before Congress.

While this testimony is not directly related to the military, she discusses in depth the terrible physical toll that “medical transitioning” took on her body.

This is what is happening to the men and women who are being paid to defend us.


95 posted on 07/30/2023 12:46:26 PM PDT by chopperk ( )
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To: Mr. N. Wolfe

Gonna be a lot of “Code Reds”.


96 posted on 07/30/2023 12:46:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Nextrush

Rush had the right idea....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahPwlOOKedg


97 posted on 07/30/2023 12:47:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The intent of the 13th Amendment to the Constitution was to ban chattel slavery. The amendment was passed by Congress and the state legislatures in the context of both sides in the Civil War using the military draft. That draft was reinstated during World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Cold War, and the Vietnam War. I am unaware of any challenges to that draft using the 13th Amendment argument being successful in the decades that followed the ratification of that Amendment.
98 posted on 07/30/2023 12:48:44 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: MinorityRepublican

Draft outside of a declared war is involuntary servitude = civil war. Just sayin...


99 posted on 07/30/2023 12:49:31 PM PDT by Theophilus (flush the alphabet soup!)
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To: CFW

They don’t even have to pass the PT test.


100 posted on 07/30/2023 12:52:45 PM PDT by Theophilus (flush the alphabet soup!)
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