Posted on 07/28/2023 6:43:34 AM PDT by Morgana
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said he will not sign a federal abortion ban to protect unborn babies even though he is “personally pro-life.”
A businessman and author, Ramaswamy has described himself as “unapologetically pro-life,” but his comments July 21 on the All-In Podcast conflict with the pro-life mission.
Although he believes “unborn life is life,” Ramaswamy said a limit or ban on killing unborn babies at the federal level would not be “principled” because abortion is an issue for the states.
“I would not support a federal abortion ban of any kind on principled ground,” he told the All-In Podcast. “Because to me, I am grounded in constitutional principles and I think there’s no legal basis for the federal government to legislate. The 10th Amendment says that part of the American experiment is that we have diversity across states, and I think this is a states issue.”
Ramaswamy said he is “open to persuasion” if a constitutional scholar convinces him otherwise, but right now, if elected president, he would not sign a law to limit or ban abortions. However, he did say the U.S. Supreme Court was correct to overturn Roe v. Wade, and states should be allowed to protect unborn babies’ lives.
“I’m personally a believer that unborn life is life,” he continued, before criticizing the pro-life movement for not doing enough to help families in need.
“I think the pro-life movement needs to walk the walk,” Ramaswamy said, emphasizing his commitment to supporting contraception, adoption, childcare, sexual responsibility and responsible fatherhood. If people on both sides of the debate can work together on these issues, he said abortion should not be “as divisive as we’ve made it out to be.”
This is not the first time Ramaswamy has opposed a federal ban on killing unborn babies in abortions. Earlier this month, he told Fox News that abortion “is an issue for the states,” and he does not believe the federal government should be involved.
His comments on abortion begin at 1:26:37 of the video below.
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Other candidates who have announced Republican presidential bids include former Presidential Donald Trump, former Vice President Mike Pence, former North Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, U.S. Sen. Tim Scott and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum.
The American people do not support abortions up to birth, paid for with their tax dollars, which is the position of President Joe Biden. Numerous polls show strong public opposition to taxpayer funding for elective abortions and strong public support for laws that limit abortions, especially after the first trimester.
Murder is a federal crime under certain circumstances.
Examples:
A murder related to rape, child molestation, or the sexual exploitation of children. Rape, sexual abuse, and sexual exploitation of minor children are federal crimes. Therefore, any murder committed during the occurrence of these crimes is a federal crime.
Drug-related murders. Drug violence may be a federal crime and any murder that occurs may be tried as a federal murder.
Murders on ships. United States maritime law makes it a federal crime to commit a murder on a ship or to commit a crime which results in someone’s death if that crime threatened the safe travel of the vessel within U.S. waters.
Murders for hire. Interstate commerce is a federal issue. If the murder occurred by crossing state lines or using communication methods, including telephones, mail, or internet, then a murder for hire could be a federal murder crime.
https://www.greenspunlaw.com/library/when-murder-is-a-federal-crime.cfm
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Will he do away with these laws?
Or will be change his comments to support bans in above scenarios?
He said he is “open to persuasion”
“If it’s not in the constitution, it’s up to the states.”
That is an interesting comment and brings to mind the question: can the federal government pass a law requiring a private lunch counter owner to serve a woman carrying an unborn black baby?
I’m not going to vote for anyone for office that has not educated himself on the important issues that he will face if elected. He’s admitting that with regard to the issue of the appropriateness of a federal limitation on abortion, that he is ignorant. That makes him either a liar or an ignoramous.
If he thinks congress has no power to limit abortions at any phase in the pregnancy, then he is not worthy of the office he is seeking.
Period.
A state issue, just like slavery, right?
And the civil war was fought over state rights and not over slavery, right?
And the second ammendment only restricts Congress not the states, right?
Just like the first amendment prevents the central government from establishing a state church but any state could do it, right?
“It’s a State issue, period.”
You and Vivek are both correct. I am pro life but recognize it is up to the individual states. Roe v Wade was a direct attack on the constitution by the former supreme court. The present court corrected this.
Abortion with very rare exceptions is a vile act. However, it is legal in some states and this constitutional.
“A state issue, just like slavery, right?
And the civil war was fought over state rights and not over slavery, right?
And the second ammendment only restricts Congress not the states, right?
Just like the first amendment prevents the central government from establishing a state church but any state could do it, right?”
Do you think all these cases are the same? Are you saying we should simply ignore the 10th Amendment? I think that has been the position of liberals for several decades.
I don’t think the four cases are the same.
Slavery was largely a state by state issue. It was only fully resolved with a Constitutional Amendment.
The civil war was complex. Slavery, States rights, tariffs all played a role.
A Supreme Court judgement said that the Bill of Rights applies for the States as well. I think that was a mistaken judgment. That is what I think, even though it does not always make me happy. California could ban guns. Georgia could become a Baptist state.
A Constitutional Amendment banning abortion for all 50 States would be entirely legal. Has anyone on this thread recommended this obvious solution?
Perhaps the thinking is “that’s too hard.” I’ve heard that response from liberals who are anti 2nd Amendment but don’t try to repeal it. Biden seems to be anti-free speech but he has made no effort to repeal the 1st Amendment. Too hard I guess. Just because it’s hard, does not justify an end-run.
No, what a candidate personally wants or doesn't want isn't a deciding factor for me. However, I will actively oppose any candidate who goes out of their way to say that they refuse to support a federal abortion ban of any kind. There is a significant difference between the two.
This was an unforced error on Mr. Ramaswamy's part. He was beginning to appear as though he might be a vice-presidential possibility or even a back-up presidential candidate if something were to happen to Donald Trump. That's over now, we know who he is and what kind of office holder he would be. He just told all of us himself.
I am not an noob. I originally joined in 2007 but I was too harsh with nut jobs like you and I got my first account banned.
Please do keep "watching" me because the things I comment on are probably going to upset the hell out of you and I will use you manic rage as fuel :)
I cannot imagine that I'm the only one that thinks Ann's comment is just a bit unhinged. I can only assume that she's making a voodoo doll of me to stick pins in.
Ann be all acting 🦇💩🤪 (bat crap crazy)
In regard to the issues of protection of life, liberty and property, the tenth amendment has been superseded by the limitations on States Rights as set forth in the 14th Amendment.
Under the 14th amendment, Congress has the power to define when life begins and to pass legislation prohibiting the states from enforcing laws which would deprive any person (born or unborn) of the right to life.
So when do you think life begins and would you support legislation that protects that life?
I second you!
He is absolutely correct...
he did say the U.S. Supreme Court was correct to overturn Roe v. Wade, and states should be allowed to protect unborn babies’ lives.
I have no problem with his position on this issue and commend him on taking this controversial stance.
He's not from India you ignorant bigot.
When does life begin?
FWIW, He is a Citizen of India.
You tell me and what's your point?
“Under the 14th amendment, Congress has the power to define when life begins”
I don’t think so.
A better route would be a Constitutional Amendment.
Nice to see that many here agree with you. Vivek is brilliant and so eloquent, a stark contrast to resident Biden.
Conception.
The Congress has the constitutional power to not only define when life begins but also to pass laws prohibiting the states from passing laws that would infringe on that right in the absence of due process.
Ultimately it is up to Congress to determine how to protect the right to life.
Do you believe in a “Right to Life”?
If so, when does a human being secure that “right”?
“I got my first account banned.”
Sound right.
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