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To: srmanuel
Everyone that has made stolen elections at least somewhat part of their campaign has lost.

You mean that in the corrupt rigged states like Georgia and Arizona, people who would remove the corruption get defeated during corrupt rigged elections?

Well i'm surprised at that. I would have thought someone vowing to investigate corrupt elections would get a majority of votes, even though the corrupt election officials who are the problem are the ones *COUNTING* the votes.

IF you want to improve election integrity, I’m all for that, in order to do that, you first must win an election and gain power.

And how does that work if they are rigging elections to make sure you can't win? You have some strange ideas here.

Your argument is that if you can't win, you can't fix corrupt elections.

My argument is, if you have corrupt elections, you can't win.

If you constantly lose the issue of election integrity, Kari Lake to this day is soliciting money to prove her election was stolen, even though every legal claim she’s made has been a loser.

That lying corrupt judge needs to be dragged out into the street and beaten until he confesses he's either so stupid that he shouldn't be allowed to be a judge, or he's on the take from the drug cartels and *THAT* is why his cockamamie decisions are so ridiculously wrong.

And yes, I do now believe the Mexican drug cartels run Arizona. Nothing else makes any sense. That woman testified to the Arizona senate that every important official in the State of Arizona is now controlled by the Drug cartels, and their behavior certainly makes that accusation look plausible.

My point, get elected, get a Republican legislature, then get laws passed, otherwise complaining about it, serves no purpose.

Yeah, I got your point. Your point doesn't require a great deal of thought, and that is the main problem with it. Did you get *MY* point?

We can't *FIX* corrupt elections as long as we *HAVE* corrupt elections.

389 posted on 07/29/2023 1:09:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Dragging a lying corrupt Judge out onto the street and beating him until he confesses takes a lot thought and planning, is that’s your point, I would suggest your idea is a ticket to life in prison if you are lucky assuming you are not shot on the spot by police.

On other FR threads on election integrity, I’ve offered multiple ideas on how to improve the chances of winning without breaking any laws.

Where it’s legal you develop a ballot harvesting program, something the Republicans have failed to do anywhere.

Encourage your voters to vote early and not wait until election day, where conveniently the machines don’t always work.

Organize a door-to-door campaign, especially in Republican precincts to get people out to vote and harvest their votes where legal, something Republicans don’t do anywhere that I know of.

Stop trashing Republican voters that have voted for people like McCain and Ducey, especially don’t tell them to get the hell out of your rallies, Republican are in no position to tell any voter to get the hell out, especially when they might vote for you.

Instead of challenging the outcome of elections by individual candidates, the Republican Party must challenge things that are clearly required by the laws of most states and that is the integrity of voter rolls which often times contain thousands of names who are no longer voters in Arizona, either they moved or died, this is supposed to be done in most states but isn’t.

Stop blaming the machines for the outcome of elections.

Machines are at least #4 or #5 on the list of things that need to be fixed with elections.

My list is the following

Demand Univeral Voter ID
Demand the elimination of Universal Mail in Voting
Demand the end of ballot harvesting
Demand the voters rolls get cleaned up

What these election challenges have shown with 100% certainty is once the ballot is accepted it will get counted and the courts will do nothing about it.

The key is to stop fraudulent ballots from happening because once they get turned in, the method of how they are counted is immaterial.

The margin of error for Republicans to start winning is very small, Kari Lake lost by about 16,000 votes.

If she had just encouraged her voters to vote early and hadn’t trashed a bunch of potential voters, her chances would have gone up considerably.

She inadvertently created a single point of failure that was exploited by the Democrats.

Added to those things if the Republican Party had an effective ground game and ballot harvesting strategy in Arizona Kari Lake would probably be Governor right now.

Abe Hamadeh would almost assuredly have won, considering he lost by just a few hundred votes.

None of what I suggest is illegal and doesn’t require beating a Judge until they confess.


391 posted on 07/29/2023 2:08:59 PM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: DiogenesLamp
That lying corrupt judge needs to be dragged out into the street and beaten until he confesses he's either so stupid that he shouldn't be allowed to be a judge, or he's on the take from the drug cartels and *THAT* is why his cockamamie decisions are so ridiculously wrong.

Fed! Fed! Fed!

396 posted on 07/29/2023 6:28:31 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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