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GIULIANI: What the president (Trump) is talking about is, however, there is a load of evidence that the Ukrainians created false information, that they were asked by the Obama White House to do it in January of 2016, information he's never bothered to go read. There are affidavits that have been out there for five months that none of you have listened to about how there's a Ukrainian court finding that a particular individual illegally gave the Clinton campaign information. No one wants to investigate that. Nobody cared about it. It's a court opinion in the Ukraine. The Ukrainians came to me. I didn't go to them. The Ukrainians came to me and said...
STEPHANOPOULOS: When did they first come to you?
GIULIANI: November of 2016, they first came to me. And they said, we have shocking evidence that the collusion that they claim happened in Russia, which didn't happen, happened in the Ukraine, and it happened with Hillary Clinton. George Soros was behind it. George Soros' company was funding it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But you accept now that that's not true?
GIULIANI: I accept that it is true. I can prove it. There are affidavits to prove that they were colluding with the Ukrainians, conspiring with the Ukrainians. There is a specific person in the DNC who was designated to get this information. There are five Ukrainian witnesses under oath saying it that are online. And if you had any regard for equal justice under the law, you would be looking for those. Well, let me ask the following question to anybody at home. If I change the names of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden to Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr., $8 million from Ukraine while under an investigation, $1.5 billion from China while negotiating with China, would I be sitting here?
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, sir, sir...
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GIULIANI: No, George, please let me finish my thought. I know it's a damaging sentence.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But you made...
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STEPHANOPOULOS: The $1.5 billion is simply not true.
GIULIANI: It is simply true.
STEPHANOPOULOS: That is -- it is not true.
GIULIANI: How do you know it's not true? Have you seen the documents?
STEPHANOPOULOS: We have seen -- the fund that you're talking about was set up. Hunter Biden was on the advisory board. He wasn't an investor until 2017. And there's no evidence that they have gotten $1.5 billion.
GIULIANI: There's evidence that they got $1 billion directly from China, specific date, 12 days after they returned from a trip to China. There's evidence that another $500 million went in. And there are three partners, Rosemont Seneca. That's Hunter Biden and the stepson of the -- of the Secretary of State. The second partner is the Bank of China. And the third partner is a company called Thornton Group. And the principal at Thornton Group is...
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STEPHANOPOULOS: Have you ever talked to Chinese nationals -- have you ever talked to Chinese nationals about investigating Hunter Biden or Joe Biden?
GIULIANI: Let me -- let me finish the sentence before you try to figure out what I might have done wrong, and revealing there's evidence that you're telling me isn't true, which I have seen. So the principals were...
STEPHANOPOULOS: Others -- others have counterevidence. And I'm responding with that counterevidence.
GIULIANI: OK. Well, then investigate it. Maybe I'm wrong.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Have you asked the Chinese to investigate that?
GIULIANI: Can I finish what I -- what it is -- that -- I haven't finished, OK?
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STEPHANOPOULOS: OK. Then answer the question.
GIULIANI: What I would have asked them to investigate if I did. The $1.5 billion was in a company that was specially established called Bohai Harvest Rosemont Seneca or some crazy name like that. The partners were Joe Biden's son, John Kerry's stepson, the Bank of China, one-third partner at least, and the Thornton Group. That was owned by Whitey Bulger's nephew. Now, that's all out there. You can go and look at it. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It should be investigated.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And what Hunter Biden's lawyer has said is...
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GIULIANI: Did I ever ask the Chinese government? No. It's not my -- if I did that, you could truly say I was investigating Joe Biden. I'm not investigating Joe Biden. I fell upon Joe Biden in investigating how the Ukrainians were conspiring with the Hillary Clinton campaign to turn over dirty information, including something for which a Ukrainian has already been convicted. So I have a very solid basis for doing it. I also support everything I say with affidavits. I have an affidavit here that's been online for six months that nobody bothered to read from the gentleman who was fired, Viktor Shokin, the so-called corrupt prosecutor. The Biden people say that he wasn't investigating Hunter Biden at the time. He says under oath that he was.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But, as you know -- I know he says that under oath.
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GIULIANI (sarcastically): Oh, he must not be -- we don't even know him. He must not be telling the truth.
STEPHANOPOULOS: We know that Vice President Biden was part of an international effort, was part of a government-wide effort to help push the prosecutor out because of allegations of corruption.
GIULIANI: If the name here was Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr., and it said that: "The president of the Ukraine asked me to resign due to pressure from the U.S. presidential administration. The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption -- corruption -- corruption probe into Burisma Holdings and Joe Biden's son." That's under oath by the prosecutor who was handling the case, who they say is corrupt. Now, a lot of prosecutors...
STEPHANOPOULOS: It's not just they who have said he's corrupt. The European Union has said he's corrupt. The entire U.S. administration said he's corrupt.
GIULIANI: Oh, they all said it. Anybody prove it?
STEPHANOPOULOS: That's why he was removed from office.
GIULIANI: No, it wasn't. The reason he was removed from office was because the president forced him to resign. And then, just in case we want to deal with corruption thing, I have another affidavit. This time from another Ukrainian prosecutor who says that the day after Biden strong-armed the president to remove Shokin, they show up in the prosecutor’s office -- lawyers for Hunter Biden show up in the prosecutor’s office and they give an apology for dissemination of false information.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I --
GIULIANI: You know -- you know what the apology is for? For having -- having gotten out the story that this guy was corrupt. Now, if you met this guy, he's not very good at corruption because he's very poor.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well --
GIULIANI: Unlike the prosecutor who tanked the case on Biden, who’s driving around in a Bentley.
STEPHANOPOULOS: OK, you -- you've gotten those charges out there. Let’s talk about --
GIULIANI: No, no, I haven’t gotten them out there.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But you have gotten them out there.
GIULIANI: No, I haven't.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You’re just --
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STEPHANOPOULOS: -- those affidavits --
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GIULIANI: Can I -- can I make a contrast? Can I just make a slight contrast with the so-called whistleblower? The whistleblower says I don’t have any direct knowledge, I just heard things. Up until two weeks before he did that, that wouldn't even been a complaint. Would have been dismissed.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Those are from -- he heard things from White House officials --
GIULIANI: He heard a lot of stuff.
STEPHANOPOULOS: -- and everything in that -- that he said about the phone call is basically tracks --
GIULIANI: No it isn’t.
STEPHANOPOULOS: -- the transcript that was revealed -- released by the --
GIULIANI: No -- you know what he's wrong about? He says about the phone call that my meeting with -- with Mr. Yermak was a direct result of the phone call. No it wasn't. The meeting was set up three days before the phone call. It wasn't a direct result of the phone call. He said -- he heard from numerous military people that I attempted to contact two individuals, Andre Bolden and a fellow named Kananov. Simple fact is I never did, it’s a total lie. I never would have contacted Andre Bolden because I had been told by very, very good authorities that he’s corrupt.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You said earlier --
GIULIANI: And I shouldn’t go near him. He said about five other things that are totally false.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And this -- well, this is -- this is what the investigation will be about (ph).
GIULIANI: And I’m not saying he was false, I’m saying he could have heard it wrong.
STEPHANOPOULOS: This --
GIULIANI: That’s why -- George, that's why it's hearsay. Because it's unreliable.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And that's what the investigation is about (ph) --
GIULIANI: -- unlike him --
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GIULIANI: -- unlike him -- please, can I just make my point?
STEPHANOPOULOS: You’ve been making your point.
GIULIANI: No I haven’t. Unlike him. These are affidavits.
STEPHANOPOULOS: From individuals who are implicated and who have been -- and who --
GIULIANI: Isn’t that the way we prosecute crime? People implicated?
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, this -- that will be part of the investigation but the House --
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GIULIANI: How about if I -- how about if I tell you over the next week four more of these will come out from four other prosecutors?
STEPHANOPOULOS: They will -- and they will all be investigated. Meantime --
GIULIANI: No, no, no, George, they won’t be because they’ve been online for six months. And the Washington press will not accept the fact that Joe Biden --
STEPHANOPOULOS: If these are --
GIULIANI: -- may have done something like this (ph).
STEPHANOPOULOS: If -- if these are so serious --
GIULIANI: If this was Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr., I wouldn’t be here having to do this.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Mr. -- Mr. Mayor --
GIULIANI: I am defending my client the best way I know how. This is not about getting Joe Biden in trouble, this is about proving --
STEPHANOPOULOS: If these charges --
GIULIANI: -- that Donald Trump was framed by the Democrats.