[tlozo]

Even if Ukraine wanted to negotiate we would not let them.

Sure, Ukrainians wanted to be slaves of Putin, except for some CIA mind control we pulled. Okay

[This_Dude]

Wow. Grossly oversimplify much? What he said is true. We would NEVER allow Ukraine to negotiate because if they did, it would interfere with NATOs plans to carve up Russia.

CIA mind control? Really? Good God man, put down the crack pipe.